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    Calling a black object “black” = Does not offend.

    Calling your car’s late ignition timing “retarded” = Does not offend.

    Calling your dog a “bitch” = Does not offend.

    Calling your rooster a “cock” = does not offend.

    Calling a tied bundle of sticks for burning a “removed” = Does not offend.

    Just follow your friendly dictionary and you’ll be fine.

    Also: Hi mods. You’re probably here because of your word filter.

    Edit: Something replaced “f-a-g-g-o-t” with “removed” automatically. I’m going to leave it because it’s hilarious that bundled sticks are forbidden.

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        That’s literally fascist propaganda. Fasces is Latin for a bundle of sticks and that was the image of strength that Italian fascists were trying to evoke.

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      Oh, so there is an automated censoring system in place. I thought people were saying removed en lieu of re-tard on Lemmy on whichever instance I was visiting. Kind of like how people use unalive.

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        I don’t think it’s Lemmy. I think it’s per-instance. Lemmy.world is not a great or open place. They’re very close to Reddit, with way too much control over Lemmy where it’s almost synonymous. Take this as a warning if you’re creating a community or new account to spread things out.

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            .ml doesn’t influence Lemmy much. Lemmy.world is the largest instance by far, and they leverage that control to force things on the larger Lemmy community. ml has issues, but at least they don’t force things on anyone else. The lead developer of Lemmy is there, so they could, but they don’t.

            Anyway, the point is that Lemmy is only as safe as it is diversified. People should be joining smaller instances, and communities created on other instances, rather than just going to the largest one.

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                Yeah, like I said, they could, but they really don’t. How often do you see posts from that instance in your feed? They influence each other, but it doesn’t spread far beyond that.

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                  I saw them a lot until I blocked them.

                  Also, the biggest communities for a lot of the more populat things are on .ml. I like anime, when I searched for a big and active anime comm, I headed first to the .ml one rather than to the .world one, because that second one was smaller. I still subscribed to bot; but then I noticed the tankie-pro-dictatorships nature of .ml and, at first, just argued, having some hope, then just blocked them when I noticed they’re hopeless.

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                    I don’t like them really either, but I think you’re looking for something that doesn’t exist. Yeah, they have some of the largest communities for certain things. That’s how federation should work. My instance also has some, and many other instances. That’s good. They don’t have an outsized portion of them though. It’s also pretty easy to block it and not miss much. If you did the same for .world then your feed would be almost empty. That’s the issue.

                    Also, why are you downvoting me (I assume it’s you). That’s weird for a discussion like this. Do you just downvote everyone who doesn’t hold the exact same opinion as yourself?

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        Mods need to turn that shit off. Computers should never tell a human what to say.

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        Its basically never used in a legitimate way unless youre a british smoker or something, and even then you are likely aware of the slur.

        Kindling or whatever the other word im blanking on is would likely be more appropriate

        “Hey can you grab me that F____?” Would mentally auto correct to “Hey, can you grab me that, F_____?” In my brain

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          Yeah, in the UK you might bum a fag. Which, now that I write it out, can mean something very different.

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          Fuck off. Writing about how and why faggot is a slur is a legitimate use. Informing who used the term faggot in a degenerative way is a legitimate way to use it. Writing about the history of the word faggot also is.

          Censorship sucks.

          Automated Censorship is stupid and dangerous.

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            If tomorrow some nazi fash starts using the word “goal” as some slur, would it be then incorrect to say “I have goals” or “omg, we’re goals” (“we’re goals” as “we’re matching”)?

            If we concede them every word they co-opt, then they’ll colonialize all language. Just as with the word queer, we should be the ones reclaiming it for ourselves. That’s a way of letting them controlling language.

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            It’s not that I just want to use slurs. I’m… um… principled! That’s the ticket! Stopping me from saying slurs is a moral hazard. What if I were a historian and this were a conversation about the history of the slur?? It’s not… but if I can construct a pretext then… uh… stop woke! DEI!

            Don’t you understand there are categories of inferior people, and we need to be vile to them???

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            I cant think of a single conversation that would be improved with a hard-R or the above mentioned work being spelled out vs referenced. Slurs are one of those “we have freedom of speech but please never say that ever again” type things. Perhaps autocensorship is a bit over the line, but we should be intolerant to intolerance.

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              English isn’t my native language. Hard-R is that retard?

              I fear that refusing to use those words even in a educational sense is rewriting history a bit.

              It’s weird how americans who been all over the Internet claiming germany has no free speech because gloryfication of the Nazis is forbidden.

              Yet it was always fine to write that heil hitler was a common greeting of people who brutally murdered millions.

              While writing that fuckwit racists used the term nigger to put themselves over other humans is now frowned upon

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              I like to think of slurs as one of those, “we have freedom of speech but also you are not free from consequences for what you say,” sorta things. So, yeah, go ahead and say it if you want to, but don’t be a bitch about it if people tell you to fuck off or call you a Nazi.