• Hubi@feddit.org
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      Is it really treason if it’s in line with what the government is doing?

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        It is if the government is also treasonous. Is it possible to charge an administration for treason? Perhaps we’ll see soon. Probably not, though.

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          No, but I bet we could be charged for treason for speaking against Cheesecake Saddam

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            Sorry to interrupt, but why the cheesecake? I just found it hilarious for some reason, but I’m not getting whether the cheesecake bears any hidden meaning I’m not getting.

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              The Cheesecake Factory is a restaurant chain. Its decor is intentionally over-the-top.

              Saddam Hussein lived a very extravagant lifestyle, even by dictators’ standards, and famously built himself palaces so overfilled with gold and precious things that instead of looking luxurious they looked tacky and in horrible taste.

              Obama joked that Trump’s White House looks like if Saddam Hussein opened a Cheesecake Factory (Trump and MAGA took it about as well as you can imagine).

              The brilliance of the joke is that, while being on the surface about interior design, Obama called Trump a narcissistic dictator getting rich by stealing from his own people. And clearly MAGAs choose to focus their response only on the Cheesecake part of the joke.

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              Obama made a joke that the white house with the renovations under Trump (with all the gold and such) looks like as if Saddam opened a cheese factory. Of course the Republicans didn’t have any sense of humor…

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          You sort of have to go down the line person by person, but yes (assuming we still had a functional 3 branch government). Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution:

          The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

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          It’s not like US elections weren’t rigged by massive campaign spending before. This is literally how the system is set up and worked for decades before. Musk just did it “right” by buying the biggest media platform of the time. People literally laughed at the massive financial loss he made with Twitter… then the government changed. Some still don’t get what Musk did there.

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            People being uninformed mixed with misinformed will be the death of this species

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              People were always uninformed and greed rules the world since at least ten centuries. We literally had leaded gasoline and chemicals killing the ozone layer.
              But we also got MAD figured out - probably the biggest achievement in human existence. And we banned leaded gasoline and the ozone layer killer chemicals. We solved acid rain too.
              I think, our species is actually progressing positively right now - even though it may not always look like that.

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      He’s barely American. Born in South Africa, raised in Canada. Idk why people ever expected him to be an American patriot.

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      Now there’s a summarial execution I wouldn’t mind catching the livestream of

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          Hmmm, that would be spectacular, but mercifully quick.

          Perhaps we could put them in a carbon fiber submersible and cycle it between the ocean floor and back until it delaminates. That way the evemt is still quick, but they’ll first endure hours of anticipation.

          …. Or we could just do it Mussolini style

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        Maybe this isn’t but that doesn’t mean Musk hasn’t committed, and shouldn’t be tried for, treason.

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          The point is, why is Russia supposedly the enemy of the US again?

          Seems the US has lots of enemies, and the liberals and conservatives just disagree on who they should be at constant war with, not if they should be at war.

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            The point is, why is Russia supposedly the enemy of the US again?

            Really? I thought the point was “Musk must be charged for treason.”

            Didn’t realize you conflated a whole different argument into that one sentence.

            Maybe take your strawman into the fields with the rest of the scarecrows.

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          Don’t you have to be a government official to be tried for treason? That said, Musk did run an illegal government agency once, not that long ago. Musk might qualify for treason.

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            I mean… Are you “at war” with every enemy all the time or can one have an enemy and not technically be in a state of war?

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              Well, the US is almost constantly at war. I didn’t realize you guys also included everyone you’re not currently bombing as enemies as well.

              Though I guess the US use of Ukraine as a proxy is close enough . . .

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                Er, k, not American. I’ll try not to be insulted by the slight, I know my accent probably is indistinguishable from theirs. Its ok. You’re growing.