Apart from the valid things that have already been mentioned in this thread: police violence in the USA is a thing. Hell, you can get shot for helping a fellow protestor. Yes I know, police != ICE, but if a real riot breaks out, I can imagine sending in the most ruthless (and psychopatically trigger-happy) shock troops to quell them.
This still isn’t stopping people from protesting in the US. Whoever says there isn’t protesting here is just straight up wrong, that is pure disinformation. I have seen the streets lined with protesters in multiple cities and towns on numerous going back years.
You are not wrong and I am not saying that there are no protests. Where I live, protests in the US are severly underreported (due to fear of the far right), but I am aware of them. I was referring to riots, with barricades, looting and all that stuff. As far as I am aware, that is not happining in the US right now, but please feel free to correct me.
Yes ACAB sure, but there is much less accountability. One of my friend works on a think tank that advices governments, hidden sources of protests and recommendations.
They’ve stopped taking US city clients. Let me explain why.
they’d have list of 15 recommendations, on how to deal with protest, top 10 generally aimed at addressing root cause and then maybe 5 or so for addressing issues with protests, like containing them in certain areas and for legal liability reason one recommendation has to be “arrest destructive protestors”.
How this is interpreted in Europe is arrest someone who breaks a glass window and what ends up happening is police then beat up someone suspected of doing this. Sometimes suspect gets maimed, I don’t think any have died for protest that the think tank covers.
How it happens in US is that think tank’s recommendation is quoted in courts as justification for trying to arrest a “agitating protestor” and then slightest hint of refusal just get arrested, the protestor gets shot. In 2024 alone US cities used think tanks recommendations in court 3 times. 7 protestors killed across 5 cities. Most don’t even make the news if protests are few hundreds in a small city.
I helped with formating of the presentation my friend used to convince board of think tank to stop taking US clients.
Anyway point being, there is difference between US police brutality and European one.
No it isn’t and I am not saying that it is. Actually, our media are doing their best to downplay racist police violence in one of our biggest cities.
To return the whataboutism: in the US, as a toddler, you can get killed by the police because your mother alledgedly stole some groceries (and because you happen to have the wrong skin color). If that is the bar for police violence, I can only imagine what will happen during an aactual riot (as in looting stores etc).
Apart from the valid things that have already been mentioned in this thread: police violence in the USA is a thing. Hell, you can get shot for helping a fellow protestor. Yes I know, police != ICE, but if a real riot breaks out, I can imagine sending in the most ruthless (and psychopatically trigger-happy) shock troops to quell them.
This still isn’t stopping people from protesting in the US. Whoever says there isn’t protesting here is just straight up wrong, that is pure disinformation. I have seen the streets lined with protesters in multiple cities and towns on numerous going back years.
People are standing up despite the risk.
You are not wrong and I am not saying that there are no protests. Where I live, protests in the US are severly underreported (due to fear of the far right), but I am aware of them. I was referring to riots, with barricades, looting and all that stuff. As far as I am aware, that is not happining in the US right now, but please feel free to correct me.
There are some riots but I would agree they are not happening on the scale that they appear to be in France, at least not presently.
Police violence isn’t just a US-specific problem.
Yes ACAB sure, but there is much less accountability. One of my friend works on a think tank that advices governments, hidden sources of protests and recommendations.
They’ve stopped taking US city clients. Let me explain why.
they’d have list of 15 recommendations, on how to deal with protest, top 10 generally aimed at addressing root cause and then maybe 5 or so for addressing issues with protests, like containing them in certain areas and for legal liability reason one recommendation has to be “arrest destructive protestors”.
How this is interpreted in Europe is arrest someone who breaks a glass window and what ends up happening is police then beat up someone suspected of doing this. Sometimes suspect gets maimed, I don’t think any have died for protest that the think tank covers.
How it happens in US is that think tank’s recommendation is quoted in courts as justification for trying to arrest a “agitating protestor” and then slightest hint of refusal just get arrested, the protestor gets shot. In 2024 alone US cities used think tanks recommendations in court 3 times. 7 protestors killed across 5 cities. Most don’t even make the news if protests are few hundreds in a small city.
I helped with formating of the presentation my friend used to convince board of think tank to stop taking US clients.
Anyway point being, there is difference between US police brutality and European one.
No it isn’t and I am not saying that it is. Actually, our media are doing their best to downplay racist police violence in one of our biggest cities.
To return the whataboutism: in the US, as a toddler, you can get killed by the police because your mother alledgedly stole some groceries (and because you happen to have the wrong skin color). If that is the bar for police violence, I can only imagine what will happen during an aactual riot (as in looting stores etc).