only frame that matters i spose

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    Well, I can say that watching 9/11 live on TV desensitized me to this.

    Ill be honest though, that is not the angle I would have expected the plane to crash at.

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      The reason it’s at such a high pitch is that it experienced heavy icing, which killed the wings ability to generate lift. Once it started falling, it oriented itself in the direction with the least drag, forward.

      They went from tolerable light icing to falling out of the sky in less than 3 minutes. Ice is very scary.

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          Anti icing equipment built into the plane. That’s accomplished via a few different methods. An important distinction is that deicing is removing ice that has already formed, where as anti-ice prevents new ice formation. Most deicing options are only able on the ground, so it’s important to have anti ice up and running before major accumulations occur.

          1. Hot air from within the engine (bleed air) is piped to areas needing heat. This is used a lot for wing leading edges.
          2. Resistive electrical heating - essentially a space heater. Used for smaller components like pitot tubes and fed by the engine’s generator.
          3. Mechanical removal via deicing boot. Essentially an expandable section of wing that breaks up already formed ice. Not super common.
          4. Chemical melting done via alcohol spray for windscreens or deice spray for the outer skin. Pretty straightforward.
          5. Altitude change. Moving to warmer, dryer air layers can work to melt built up ice, or prevent new ice formation, respectively. Flying high can also help, since the low air pressure allows ice to sublimate.
          6. Avoiding flying into icing conditions. This one seems kind of obvious, but it’s worth saying.

          According to the ATC recordings, the FO reported that they were using their anti ice. Unfortunately, anti ice can only handle so much, and it seems like they may have ended up in conditions that overwhelmed their ability to prevent it. They tried to go to a higher altitude to escape the icing, but it obviously came too late. Ultimately, that’ll be for the NTSB to decide what the root causes were. Hopefully the FDR survived by some miracle.

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        23 hours ago

        Yeah. I made the mistake of listening to just a snippet of the audio. It must of felt like an eternity, falling from 35k feet even at that speed.

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      This video is oddly less graphic. It’s so fast and absurd that the horror doesn’t really come with it.

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        NGL. I’ve seen other ways to die. Instant obliteration isn’t a bad way to go. Beats drowning by a long shot.

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          Idk. The pilot sounded like she knew and I can’t get that out of my head. Adrenaline kicking in, slowing everything down, but knowing she had no more control and there was only one outcome.

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            there’s plenty of violent deaths that take a while

            the two dudes in ukraine fighting over a knife comes to mind

            this is for sure sad but short of dying in your sleep this isnt too bad a death

            hell id take this over cancer, stroke or a heart attack

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        It looks like missile footage, except with a slow explosive with fire rather than a fast explosive with shockwave.

        This particular video looks like it destroys the white car, but other angles of the aftermath show that the white car was a bit behind the explosion and that driver was OK but understandably shaken up.