cross-posted from: https://metawire.eu/post/247532
US President Donald Trump on Friday announced that he had ordered two nuclear submarines to deploy near Russia, responding to what he called “foolish and inflammatory” threats from former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev.
“He also did not elaborate on the locations, which are kept secret by the US military.” OK who in the cabinet is going to leak the location first, anyone taking bets?
Trump will while trying to brag.
“Our nuclear submarines were deployed so fast, the fastest they’ve ever been deployed. They made the trip from China to Crimea in under a week. So fast”
is anyone keeping an eye on the War Thunder forums?
The wife of the drunkard who leaked belligerent assault plans on Snapchat.
The white supremacist tattooed gentleman from Fox News who got appointed by a razor thin margin where only 50 Republicans voted for him?
You gotta get the season pass for Warthunder if you want that.
Cue a bottle of russian vodka being delivered to Pete’s office
They tend to move around though.
Mtg
Taco is pulling another Epstein distraction card?
Lol, we’re all going to fucking die before his term is over.
Hey, at least I don’t need to put out a campaign sign saying “Atomic Winter 2028”
Sad that all we can do is wait
JFC. The President of the United States has publicly announced where he’s moved the most powerful weapon platforms in all human history, whose whole raison d’etre is to be fucking covert, utterly hidden. Just so he could flex.
Of all the crazy shit the man has done, this one rustles my jimmies.
He could always say he did and lie, it wouldn’t be the first time, and it’s more in-character of such pathological liar con man.
Meh, maybe you’re right, but flexing is equally in character.
Yeah, I wouldn’t even be surprised if the military was completely ignoring him in such regards, if Hegseth was stopping weapons shipments to Ukraine without the president knowing why should we believe he knows anything that is going on with them. He’s probably just a racist, sexist, pedophile being used as a puppet because it appeals and upsets enough people to be used as a guise.
The boomers were already in place. Think our finest weapon platform wasn’t already in range to hit Russia? But saying so out loud is a threat of Biblical proportions.
The man is still an idiot but saying we have 2 nearby is useless information considering how covert they are and how much space they could be in. Foreign Nuclear subs have literally crashed into each other because they are so sneaky they couldn’t hear each other until they literally hit and “nearby” can include an area that is millions of square miles.
I’m sorry, but this is the one?
France did the same thing when US threatened to annex Greenland and moved nuclear submarines in the Area. it’s a great deterrent.
To be fair on that, there’s no point in a doomsday device if nobody knows you have one. Unless he gave away a specific location…
After musk opened the doors to Russia who the hell knows what Russia knows now.
Also there is no reason to goto war with them. They don’t want our land and we don’t want theirs. wtf is wrong with this fucking sick world.
They won’t go to war. Trump likes to look tough and pretend he’s a powerful leader. He needs an ego boost after all the negative press about him fucking underage girls and poor jobs outlooks.
Need to queue up a bigger headline to dominate the news cycle when Ghislaine Maxwell disappears from prison
There will likely be a lot of stupid conflicts over the Arctic in the oncoming decades, sad to say.
Just for show. He’s still putin’s bitch.
Yeah. Talk is cheap. Watch what he actually does, ignore the firehose of bullshit.
As a show of force, moving nuclear submarines around doesn’t seem like a great play.
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A nuclear submarine’s strongest asset relative to a surface ship is that one can’t know where it is. It goes down, it doesn’t come back up again for half a year, that makes it hard to identify. Why give clues that narrow things down at all?
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Because it needs to stay hidden, you can’t show it to the party you’re doing the show of force to to prove that you’ve done the movement, which makes your words just functionally words — the only weight here is the credibility your words hold. (Which in Trump’s case may be one of, if not the, lowest credibility I’d personally assign to any historical US president.)
I mean, I think that moving literally any military asset other than submarines doesn’t have this issue. Surface vessels, aircraft, land forces, whatever.
The article does not make it clear what type of submarine — attack (SSN) or ballistic missile (SSBN) — is being referred to. A “nuclear submarine” refers to both, as the term refers to the submarine’s powerplant, not the armament. I am guessing, based on this response where the author says that he is not sure, that Trump never specified.
If the submarine in question is a ballistic missile submarine, it really doesn’t need to be anywhere particularly near a target to hit that target. US ballistic missile submarines fire Trident II SLBMs. WP has the Trident II range as “More than 7,500 mi (12,000 km)[8][9] (exact is classified)[10]”.
There are certain situations where you might want to fire an SLBM from less than that; you can fire it at a depressed trajectory to reduce the time until impact, which might be useful in a first-strike scenario where you want to destroy an opponent’s nuclear weapons before they can get off the ground.
https://scienceandglobalsecurity.org/archive/sgs03gronlund.pdf
SLBMs flown on depressed trajectories would have short flight times, comparable to escape times of bombers and launch times of ICBMs, thus raising the possibility of short time-of-flight (STOF) nuclear attacks. We assess the depressed trajectory (DT) capability of existing SLBMs by calculating the flight times, atmospheric loading on the booster, reentry heating on the reentry vehicle (RV), and degradation of accuracy for a DT SLBM. We find that current US and CIS SLBMs flown on depressed trajectories would have the capability to attack bomber bases at ranges of up to about 2,000 kilometers, and possibly at ranges up to 3,000 kilometers. To target bombers based furthest inland, a new high-velocity booster might be required, and attacking hardened targets would require a maneuvering RV (MaRY).
However, in that case, you probably aren’t going to want to hint that you are planning on doing so if you actually intend a first strike. Sure, you could try to so merely as a bargaining chip, but doing something that you probably wouldn’t do in an actual attack undermines the credibility of the threat and thus devalues the bargaining chip.
The US doesn’t really need to issue nuclear threats against Russia. It has strong conventional military superiority.
And there are some good reasons not to want to lower the bar for nuclear threats, as a convention. We don’t want to nudge the world closer to a situation where a nuclear war actually starts accidentally — not just in this scenario, but in later ones.
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I was walking along, minding my business, when that orange colored guuuy
flash, bam, alakazam
doomed us all to diiie
Dog and pony show to look tough. We all know who he reports to.
Medvedev’s been getting a little too freaky during phone sex
Oh my god he hasn’t even been in ofice a year, already feels like four. Why haven’t the McDonald’s cheeseburgers started doing their job already
“It is now 89 seconds to midnight”
I think it’s time to update that …
He is deploying the USS Jeffrey Epstein and the USS Distraction.
The USS SQUIRREL
I am honored to be the president of peace!
~ This fucking goon
Also this week:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/leavitt-time-trump-won-nobel-225301881.html
Leavitt: It’s time Trump won a Nobel Peace Prize
White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said it’s “well past time” that President Donald Trump received the Nobel Peace Prize.
lol, he wouldn’t even win the Nobel pizza prize if it was free after 30 minutes and he’d waiting a year.
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if they held the NPP out as a carrot to get him through his term without starting WWIII. He wants the recognition and praise so bad it might just work.
Man I wish he’d bring war to the warmongers, instead of threatening Canada and Greenland and Europe.
This feels fake, though. Theater for the anti-Russian GOP.
Also, publicly announcing your nuclear sub movements is a pretty good way to get positive ID on some of the yet unidentified algae bloom wakes, so kudos, Donny. Ta!
good way to get positive ID on some of the yet unidentified algae bloom wakes,
need more context for what appears to be a pretty clever comment
Just from reading the comment I guess there have been wakes spotted in fields of algae (which can be quite extensive during a bloom) via images from space and no ship movement could be attributed to them.
Apparently in algae bloom regions ships leave wakes that “can be seen in satellite radar images as long bright strips of enhanced backscatter with characteristic length of up to several hundred kilometres lasting more than 5 hours” according to this Russian Space Research Institute article.
Fuck yeah, thanks for answering.
there it is!
Fuck yeah. Thank you for asking.
he’s still pedophile.
Every news outlet should just fist that into every headline.
Known pedophile and rapist, insert headline