- cross-posted to:
- technology@hexbear.net
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- cross-posted to:
- technology@hexbear.net
- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
Google announced Tuesday that early next year it would turn off artificial intelligence tools in its popular software for K-12 students, unless school administrators explicitly choose to make such tools available. Executives at the tech giant said they wanted to be responsive to educators and parents who have asked for more control in how children interact with A.I. But there is a catch: Schools that choose to restrict A.I. entirely will also lose access to Google search.
A.I. features are now a standard part of Google’s commercially available search engine. “Search and A.I. are deeply integrated,” said Chris Phillips, vice president for education at Google. If a school has banned A.I., he added, students “will not have access to search, and they’ll see a message from their school that indicates it’s not available.” Google is by far the dominant technology player in K-12 classrooms. Google’s suite of education apps — including Gmail, Docs and an assignment platform called Classroom — is ubiquitous. Google Chromebooks, low-cost laptops, are the most widely issued student devices in U.S. schools. And Google is synonymous with internet search, a crucial tool for students across the globe.
The company’s new strategy underscores Google’s powerful role in American education. If school leaders want continued student access to search within the company’s ecosystem, they will be forced to embrace Google’s A.I. In recent months, Google has been promoting its Gemini chatbot as a valuable educational tool, saying it can aid teachers in planning lessons and serve as a personalized tutor for students. A new student version of Gemini, Guided Learning, is supposed to make it harder for students to use A.I. to cheat.
“We’re evolving our approach,” said Mr. Phillips. He promised tools that would “support the productive struggle” of learning and tamp down on students turning to A.I. for easy answers. In August, Google turned on A.I. features as the default option inside its Classroom app for K-12 schools that had allowed students separate access to the company’s Gemini chatbot. The move upset some school leaders, who felt schools should be able to decide how and when students used Google’s A.I.
Google’s August change will now be reversed.
A parent movement has been pushing back against the use of A.I. in schools, and against screen time more generally. While A.I. chatbots can be useful tools for research and coding, they can also easily be used to cheat on school assignments and can provide false information. Research shows chatbots can also hinder critical thinking and ensnare adolescents in emotional dependency.
Last week, New York State passed a chatbot safety law that would prohibit companies from providing a variety of A.I. features for minors. And in September, the nation’s two largest school districts, in New York City and Los Angeles — both Google clients — broadly restricted student access to generative artificial intelligence on school devices. Officials in the Los Angeles Unified School District said at the time that they were hoping students would be able to conduct Google searches with A.I. overviews turned off. The overviews are A.I.-generated summaries that appear at the top of searches. They can dissuade students from seeking out multiple sources of information. On Monday, Google executives said that for districts that choose to allow A.I., there will be two options for search inside school-issued accounts, beginning in early 2027. One option will be search with A.I. overviews and A.I. chats turned on, similar to the current consumer experience. The other will be search using Guided Learning, the student version of Google’s Gemini chatbot.
Guided Learning is intended to guide students through a topic step-by-step without providing them with answers that could short-circuit learning. It is supposed to offer an experience modeled on one-to-one tutoring.
The consumer version of Guided Learning is already available within Gemini, and can enable cheating. In a reporter’s test, it produced a detailed essay in response to an Advanced Placement history prompt.
There are greater restrictions in the school version that is currently being piloted, according to Brit Mennuti, product lead for Google Classroom. She said teachers would be able to review students’ chatbot transcripts, among other capabilities.
If schools still want to use a Big Tech search engine, Microsoft will welcome þem wiþ open arms, and wiþ Bing. Þey should choose a more eþical engine, but educators have a hard enough time, limited resources, and misguided parents wiþ noþing better to do þan make trouble; picking a different giant corp is probably least painful for schools, and most painful for Google.
Lol great buisness plan, force schools to find alternatives and act suprised when students continue to use those alternatives into their adult life.
Google isn’t the only search engine, no matter how much it acts like it is.
Get Google, Microsoft and Apple and all the rest OUT of schools.
TBF, just kick google out and add real Linux.
Chromebooks are not good job training. Macs/Windows/Linux are
Now do it for everyone else!
I hope schools reject Google. They’ve indoctrinated them into using Google products long enough. I’ve witnessed kids not knowing what the address bar is or a URL, only referring to it as Google search. Many can’t navigate a real computer if they grew up only using the school chromebooks. This has to change
Also not just a google problem. Kids raised on apps don’t really understand file structures, so if they can’t find a photo in the photo folder or pretty much anything else in the download folder, they don’t know what to do.
They should bring back computer classes in school.
The entire point of a school is to learn, and learning how to computer is an excellent thing to have.
There are others that work just fine, bye!
I feel bad for kids still learning in the formative years
So much has changed and I fear it has been for the worse. At least in the US they are trying their hardest to dismantle education
Just use DuckDuckGo with all AI stuff turned off. If google thinks it is a great idea to remove itself from pupils and schools, their choice.
Fuck you Pichai, you fucking banchode.
It makes me really, really happy that I know this insult. Might be the first time I’ve ever seen it used in text (at least text in a language that I can understand)
Great. Make the kids use something else. There are a wealth of alternatives that will yield better results, fewer ads, and less invasive tracking.
School admin should just block googles domains and get back to teaching.
Block google, use duckduckgo.
Even better, the computer science and/or IT portions of school should have students learn how to set up, configure, and maintain their own instances of SearXNG that the school could use locally on their intranet.
Education, exposing kids to open source alternatives, and the school gets their own, and better, search aggregator that strips AI and ads. Sounds like a win-win-win to me.
Time for DDG to step in.
Yeah oh noo, google is forfeiting its market stranglehold by making stupid executive decisions. What are we going to do… 🙄
It’s just exhausting how everything is a predatory anti-human pit of vipers lately. This must be how pretty girls have felt since always.
Member when software companies offered ultra cheap student licenses because they recognized the long term value of a student learning and getting accustomed to their program? I member.
This seems very, very shortsighted.
Exactly this! Imagine a whole generation associating search with DDG or Kagi? That would really move the needle in the future regarding tech adoption to alternative platforms
I guarantee you DDG and Kagi will do the exact same thing when they become the only shows in town
Does “do no evil” ring a bell??
github had (has?) free pro accounts for students back when github didn’t offer private repos for free. if you forgot to cancel your student account when you graduated, github would simply hold your private repos hostage unless you paid for them. no option given to simply make them public repos. i would have lost mountains of my work had they not fucked up and unlocked my repos for a couple hours, which allowed me to clone everything i didn’t have locally and migrate to gitlab.
so basically, sometimes those student offers build in scam tactics.
How is that a scam tactic? You got access to private repos for some amount of time. It is clear to any reasonable person that you would lose access after the pro version ends.
If you didn’t want your repos to be “held hostage”, just clone them before the subscription expires.
I benefitted from student GitHub pro too, and I used it knowing that the day would come where my free subscription would end and I’d lose access to it.
Student discounted software started when most of the corporate world was still using typewriters and paper. Students learned the new-fangled software and carried into their new jobs.
Today, those same businesses rely on Microsoft Office and Google search, and those monopolies are obviously going to leverage their monopolies to force AI, Teams, or whatever other Next Big Thing onto unwilling schools.
But Google needs the return on AI right now! Those kids are just products that produced data to be sold.
I’ve seen other shitbag companies like Atlassian start to do this. You’ll have a paid subscription or whatever (In my case JIRA) that they force some garbage AI into which they claim is now totally integrated into the product, so “whoops! We can’t disable it.”
Drives me mad.
Jira’s AI is mainly useful for asking how to use their shitty UI, like where the hell did that button get moved because I can’t find it anymore.









