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    pdf is a print and typesetting format for printers. what’s crazy is that we’re using it for something other than that.

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      It’s not? The p stands for portable, which implies a digital format for software use. Maybe you’re thinking of postscript?

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            No. It is designed for print. It is used for screens (that’s the crazy part). Something like HTML or epub is designed for screens. PDF later got extended with some features, that only make sense on screen but the original design is for print and it shows. For example everything has a fixed layout size (like paper). And most of the time the order of words got lost so you can not select text in a meaningful way (something that would not matter if it is printed).

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            actually, you’re kinda right! didn’t know this before, but pdf started as a slimmed-down version of postscript that didn’t support all print features.

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              This is funny. They’re correct.

              Development of PDF began in 1991, when Adobe’s co-founder John Warnock wrote a paper for a project then code-named Camelot, in which he proposed the creation of a simplified version of Adobe’s PostScript format called Interchange PostScript (IPS).[1] Unlike traditional PostScript, which was tightly focused on rendering print jobs to output devices, IPS would be optimized for displaying pages to any screen and any platform.[1]

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_PDF

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                That’s interesting indeed. I knew it was about portability, being right there in the name, but I thought it was about being as compatible everywhere (any device) as possible, then over time also became the defacto way to share a printable document, then that use case waned in popularity since the mid aughts.

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      History of PDF is basically: We need a standard format to get print jobs over there > Postscript > let’s add feature X > also feature y > make it do thing too! > uh oh, it’s gotten too powerful, security galore > reboot and slim it down > PDF > let’s add feature X > also feature y > …

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        I feel like websites tried to do the same with seperating CSS from the DOM, but then the web said, actually how about we invent webasm anyway…

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      Almost as crazy as Adobe continuing to exist decades after purchasing Macromedia when it could not compete with Macromedia’s software on merit.

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      pocorgtfo has some pretty cool/scary examples of what a pdf is capable of hiding. One issue actually starts with a boot sector that is a playble game of tetris

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        that’s what happens when any file with a valid pdf header in it anywhere is a valid pdf…