• 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    rule of thumb. it’s ok to punch upwards and laterally in comedy,

    given that Christianity is basically the default state religion in most developed countries, making fun of it is sort of punching upwards.

    but unless you’re part of the minority, it’s likely you’ll say some really stupid stuff if you make fun of said minority and it’ll likely sound hateful and ignorant.

    and to make it clear. those politicians are zionists, they are doing it to appease their AIPAC donor. they are not Jewish and do not support jews or their communities. look how the only loud antizionist politician in the US has the support of his Jewish constituents.

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      1 day ago

      yes, the reason to be sensitive about Judaism is the robust history and present of oppression Jews have experienced. It’s unfortunate that Israel uses this as a basis of dismissing legitimate criticism of their crimes as anti-Semitism.

      For comparison, imagine a Black ethno-state committing genocide (e.g. like in Ethiopia) and then dismissing critics as merely racists.

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        No sorry, being black and being jewish is not the same. You can stop being jewish if you want, you can’t stop being black lol

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          15 hours ago

          Man, you should be embarrassed. How can someone be so assertive and yet so ignorant? At least tell me you’re 12?

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          21 hours ago

          Judaism is a religion, but also an ethnicity - some people are born ethnic Jews and are not able to “stop being Jewish”. Some people convert to Judaism and are not ethnic Jews. You seem confused by this, maybe?

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            21 hours ago

            If it is really an ethnicity, what does a jew from israel, usa and poland have in common? Language, tradition, society and history are all different. Things in common? Jewish religion.

            Ethnicity is also closely tied to nationalism, to a common land that shapes the shared experience of it. And if you say israel, we can close the conversation here.

            Can you give me an example of ethnic jew that doesn’t follow the religion? What does it mean to be born ethnically jew?

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              19 hours ago

              Albert Einstein, Woody Allen, and Sigmund Freud were all ethnic Jews who were not followers of Judaism.

              Are you young? I know many people IRL who are of Jewish ethnicity but are not religious, but I remember when I was younger I did not have as much awareness.

              In lieu of life experience, perhaps it would be helpful to read more about Jewish identity and learn that way:

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews

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                  18 hours ago

                  I just don’t believe anything any jew says anymore, I assume everything is a lie and start from there.

                  This is so clearly anti-Semitic and bigoted, I don’t have anything more to say to you.

                  You shouldn’t think an entire race of people are inherently dishonest, it does not make sense and is hateful.

                  Goodbye.

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          You can stop being jewish if you want

          According to all the worst people (Israeli Nationalist and Nazis) you can’t.