• Omnipitaph@reddthat.com
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    2 days ago

    This does not actually refute the claim that the fetus would be dead. I’m not actually sure if you’re contesting anything.

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        Do you think women are conceiving intern minerals in their womb? What is this question xD I’m going to assume you’re having a laugh, because by every metric a fetus is alive. If those cells are multiplying, consuming various stuff to continue multiplying; the fetus is alive. If the fetus, removed from its source of food, dies; it must be alive. If you removed me from all sources of food, I too would die.

        If you have a compelling argument, I’d love to hear it though.

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            16 hours ago

            Your hand is a functioning attachment of your body, having the same DNA as every other part of your body. A fetus is a separate organism with its own DNA.

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              16 hours ago

              Not always correct. It’s possible to have a living organism with different DNA in different body parts (chimerism). Also, gut bacteria.

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            Not separate, but it is a living thing. If you starved your hand off by constricting the blood flow, I don’t think anyone would question you when you say your hand is dead.

            Actually isn’t that literally called dying off in English?

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              I think we’re using 2 different meanings of “dead” here. There’s “dead” as in “dead tissue” and “dead” as in “corpse”. My point was that a fetus fits the first meaning of “dead”, but not the second. You can’t “kill” a fetus.

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                I don’t really think we are. A corpse is also just dead tissue after all. I don’t think there’s a significant difference in semantics here.

                At the end of the day I don’t think we should be debating the meaning of the words, just what we think they represent.

                The main difference (to me) is when it’s a separate living being. I would definitely call a just-conceived foetus “alive”, but it’s not an individual yet, and I would have no issue with aborting it.

                Also I do want to make clear I’m very pro-abortion. I’m just autistic and get triggered by “misinformation” (this isn’t misinformation but again my autistic ass can’t think of the proper term).