If there are 5 people saying “the Ukraine”, I am one of them. If there is 1 person saying “the Ukraine”, that person is me. If there is no one saying " the Ukraine", I am no longer alive. If the entire world says “the Ukraine”, I will support the entire world. 'Till my last breath, I will say “the Ukraine”.

  • XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    2 days ago

    “the Ukraine” that’s 100% the default for English speakers because it’s pronounced like “the UK” but with an “r” and an “n” mixed in without changing the syllables or vowels

    1. “the ukraine” was never the default for me (east coast yankkkee in my 30s). it feels kind of old timey to me. i agree that the media has made up the whole “the ukraine is the ruzzian way to pronounce it!” bit, but before that “the ukraine” was old person coded

    2. if “the ukraine” is the default for some english speakers, the reason is absolutely not “because it’s pronounced like “the UK” but with an “r” and an “n” mixed in without changing the syllables or vowels”. toponyms dont really work like that

    • GiorgioBoymoder [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      “the ukraine” was never the default for me (east coast yankkkee in my 30s). it feels kind of old timey to me. i agree that the media has made up the whole “the ukraine is the ruzzian way to pronounce it!” bit, but before that “the ukraine” was old person coded 10000-com

      I’ve called it Ukraine for decades (I’m not even an east coast yank!), because I wasn’t born in 1975 and place names change sometimes.

      Czechoslovakia is another one that dates people’s geography knowledge imo.