• ALLHAILHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.ml
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    I looked it up and you are right, it was on his website he just didn’t openly push it as much. I remembered a speech he specifically said he did not run on the public option. 17 years ago, I went from memory, my bad. I was actually supporting Obama over Hillary back then. Not sure why that immediately made me a centrist liar. You seem kind of intense.

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      I remembered a speech he specifically said he did not run on the public option.

      Yeah, that was gaslighting after it became clear that the public option was always a bill of goods designed to be jettisoned as quickly as possible.

      You seem kind of intense.

      Yeah, 17 years of lies from Clinton supporters and being blamed every time centrism either fails to win or succeeds in blocking their own campaign promises will do that. I didn’t see someone who was mistaken; I saw someone who was trying to pretend that Clinton was even slightly progressive by attributing policy to her that her wing of the party killed.

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        I only brought it up because too many people remember Obama as better than the heritage foundation capitulating fake lefty he was. I thought I was making a point he was more to the right than Hillary who gets more readily pegged as a center right hawk. Oh well.

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          If her performance in 2016 is any indication, if she had beaten Obama, she would have considered her job done.

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            Yeah, I supported Obama back then because I assumed Hillary was lying. Clinton was always a corporatist and she was right with him. NAFTA fucked the working class hard. Plus she pushed the super predator narrative.