"I keep telling these people who are being crushed with an oppressive boot to stop being crushed with an oppressive boot, but they just won’t listen. "
Listen, what you’re saying has no nuance and is easy to say without having to take any action yourself. Even if you’re well meaning, only actions matter here and trying to have an understanding and context of actual life in America. It’s easy to be on the outside looking in on the trainwreck here.
You clearly have no idea how many protests and riots we’ve had in response, but it gets swiftly stomped out. You don’t seem to understand how the strength of one of (if not the) strongest military power can be used against its own people to end a peaceful protest with force. If the police won’t do it, they send in the National Guard.
I’m not proud of my country. I don’t make excuses for my country. In many ways I hate my country. But your words are tone deaf and frankly pathetic.
I mean, you’re right if giving any facts is just an excuse now. This isn’t a list of reasons why we shouldn’t do something, it’s a list of reasons why it hasn’t worked at all yet, because people are trying, but you’d like to assume we all sit on our fat asses and do nothing I’m sure.
Jfc, no. Any work I may be doing does not need to be proven to you, and disclosing any of it would only be putting myself at risk. Do you even understand what kind of shit the feds are trying to use for digital surveillance? Or that our TSA literally are checking phones of people coming into our borders for anti-Trump social media posts? Why would I ever fucking tell you or anyone anything I participate in? That’s just how out of touch you are if you think I should.
My point is that what is happening to the US is happening and will continue to happen because of people like you insisting that they’re doing enough and getting defensive when anyone says otherwise.
It’s fine, keep it up. The fascists are counting on it.
It’s easy to point blame at something or someone when you’re completely unaffected by the problem and have zero personal stake. What I’m trying to tell you is that everyone needs to prioritize their own privacy online and it wouldn’t matter if I was a resistance general or the just the random dude on the street. We all have something to lose.
The only thing I will say is that I do work for government myself. No, it’s not an elected position, and no I’m not someone high up in legislation or anything like that. But I have been a public employee for decades now and my own state has proven that they can and will work to have someone forcefully resigned based on unfavorable social media posts.
So again, no.
But also “because of people like you” is exactly the kind of shit we should be fighting against saying in the first place, my dude. Because that leads to generalizations that those in power do take advantage of.
And if you read my replies, Korea broke its boot. Thailand broke theirs. Spain bombed theirs. Indonesia is literally showing them up. France has done it twice now. Netherlands once.
Why are you 🇺🇲s so different that you can not replicate success of your prior allies?
Why are you, so successful at installing despots around the world, that when a coup starts at home, you fail so damn hard at keeping the wigs off?
If you have already accepted your deaths, then why even bother replying to me on lemmy? Just check out, no need to further assist fascists more than you already have. Just like end it.
I’m just not hopeless, that I won’t bring down one with me along too.
But your words are tone deaf and frankly pathetic.
Why are you, so successful at installing despots around the world, that when a coup starts at home, you fail so damn hard at keeping the wigs off?
That is exactly the fucking answer. Who is doing this? Our military. Because they’re that god damned strong. You just listed a bunch of countries that while things may have been difficult, they do not at all compare to a super power’s military strength. They just don’t. That’s not something I’m happy about, and that’s not even American exceptionalism talking, that’s just the reality and the disparity of the different miliary strengths.
If you have already accepted your deaths, then why even bother replying to me on lemmy?
I’m not accepting it and you don’t get to say when I can and cannot speak out just because we disagree.
you don’t get to say when I can and cannot speak out just because we disagree
Good. Then I’ll continue saying “beat your ‘god damned strong’ military at urban guerrilla Vietnam proved still works on their asses.” Your Maoists failed twice to make scrambled eggs, now show me what “Democrats” can do, other than comply.
You have the perfect distraction now, that the chariman is at war with Venezuela. 🫡
Yep I completely agree that our Democratic party does incredibly little. They got all upset at Trump calling them Do Nothing Democrats during his first term, but it’s the fucking truth. Voting Democrat is only the “lesser evil” because the alternatives are either fascists or independents who have no power hold whatsoever at ANY level of government in the entire nation.
The part that is infuriating for me is that I’d rather at least have a more centrist party if not outright liberal party, because Democrats are still conservative; they’re just further left of Republicans. The only liberal parties are independents and you cannot get federal power without first having local/city power, and then state power, and finally federal. It’ll never work on any other way in the US and that’s been proven for over 200 years.
"I keep telling these people who are being crushed with an oppressive boot to stop being crushed with an oppressive boot, but they just won’t listen. "
Listen, what you’re saying has no nuance and is easy to say without having to take any action yourself. Even if you’re well meaning, only actions matter here and trying to have an understanding and context of actual life in America. It’s easy to be on the outside looking in on the trainwreck here.
You clearly have no idea how many protests and riots we’ve had in response, but it gets swiftly stomped out. You don’t seem to understand how the strength of one of (if not the) strongest military power can be used against its own people to end a peaceful protest with force. If the police won’t do it, they send in the National Guard.
I’m not proud of my country. I don’t make excuses for my country. In many ways I hate my country. But your words are tone deaf and frankly pathetic.
“I don’t make excuses for my country but here’s a shitload of excuses.”
I mean, you’re right if giving any facts is just an excuse now. This isn’t a list of reasons why we shouldn’t do something, it’s a list of reasons why it hasn’t worked at all yet, because people are trying, but you’d like to assume we all sit on our fat asses and do nothing I’m sure.
What is this “it” you think has been tried that “hasn’t worked yet”?
Do you think parades with cute little signs are “doing something”? What am I thinking, of course you do.
“People are trying.” 😅 Nobody is trying. Going to a protest in a Saturday is less than nothing. If I’m wrong, show your work.
Jfc, no. Any work I may be doing does not need to be proven to you, and disclosing any of it would only be putting myself at risk. Do you even understand what kind of shit the feds are trying to use for digital surveillance? Or that our TSA literally are checking phones of people coming into our borders for anti-Trump social media posts? Why would I ever fucking tell you or anyone anything I participate in? That’s just how out of touch you are if you think I should.
Right, I’m sure you’re a fuckin’ general in the massive underground resistance that’s going to pop up any day now
And I’m sure your uncle works for Nintendo. What’s your fucking point?
My point is that what is happening to the US is happening and will continue to happen because of people like you insisting that they’re doing enough and getting defensive when anyone says otherwise.
It’s fine, keep it up. The fascists are counting on it.
It’s easy to point blame at something or someone when you’re completely unaffected by the problem and have zero personal stake. What I’m trying to tell you is that everyone needs to prioritize their own privacy online and it wouldn’t matter if I was a resistance general or the just the random dude on the street. We all have something to lose.
The only thing I will say is that I do work for government myself. No, it’s not an elected position, and no I’m not someone high up in legislation or anything like that. But I have been a public employee for decades now and my own state has proven that they can and will work to have someone forcefully resigned based on unfavorable social media posts.
So again, no.
But also “because of people like you” is exactly the kind of shit we should be fighting against saying in the first place, my dude. Because that leads to generalizations that those in power do take advantage of.
And if you read my replies, Korea broke its boot. Thailand broke theirs. Spain bombed theirs. Indonesia is literally showing them up. France has done it twice now. Netherlands once.
Why are you 🇺🇲s so different that you can not replicate success of your prior allies? Why are you, so successful at installing despots around the world, that when a coup starts at home, you fail so damn hard at keeping the wigs off?
If you have already accepted your deaths, then why even bother replying to me on lemmy? Just check out, no need to further assist fascists more than you already have. Just like end it. I’m just not hopeless, that I won’t bring down one with me along too.
That is exactly the fucking answer. Who is doing this? Our military. Because they’re that god damned strong. You just listed a bunch of countries that while things may have been difficult, they do not at all compare to a super power’s military strength. They just don’t. That’s not something I’m happy about, and that’s not even American exceptionalism talking, that’s just the reality and the disparity of the different miliary strengths.
I’m not accepting it and you don’t get to say when I can and cannot speak out just because we disagree.
Good. Then I’ll continue saying “beat your ‘god damned strong’ military at urban guerrilla Vietnam proved still works on their asses.” Your Maoists failed twice to make scrambled eggs, now show me what “Democrats” can do, other than comply. You have the perfect distraction now, that the chariman is at war with Venezuela. 🫡
Yep I completely agree that our Democratic party does incredibly little. They got all upset at Trump calling them Do Nothing Democrats during his first term, but it’s the fucking truth. Voting Democrat is only the “lesser evil” because the alternatives are either fascists or independents who have no power hold whatsoever at ANY level of government in the entire nation.
The part that is infuriating for me is that I’d rather at least have a more centrist party if not outright liberal party, because Democrats are still conservative; they’re just further left of Republicans. The only liberal parties are independents and you cannot get federal power without first having local/city power, and then state power, and finally federal. It’ll never work on any other way in the US and that’s been proven for over 200 years.