Using windows is just so tiring. I shouldn’t have to actively fight with the OS to do the things I need to do. Not even power user shit, it’s just that the windows experience gets more and more hostile every year.
Meanwhile, Linux quietly does what needs to be done, and offers to make it even easier to do those things, but only if I want that help.
I spent the whole morning on my day off fighting with my kids’ windows install.
“when I open rope locks and I open chrome at the same time if everything just lags and stutters.” " I think it’s because Chrome is using 30% of my memory up when I open it. Can you help me fix it?"
What started as a educational how things actually work, what matters, what doesn’t matter, quickly evolved into why in the fuck can’t I uninstall Adobe Creative Cloud. Followed by looking up a dozen services I’ve never seen before which are apparently part of Windows now, but have names like corporate products that don’t have anything to do with Windows.
I showed him the start-up and the task scheduler and all the little bits and bobs for things to detect what’s happening. Showed him how to look through the task manager list. Uninstall the stuff that isn’t necessary, reboot, and check again.
Fucking creative Cloud would not uninstall. Hit uninstall. App opens to update. No option but to update.
I’m trying not to go in bull in a china shop because it’s a teaching moment. We search, find to delete the program data and try again. It unlocked it enough that I could log into it, then uninstall. Why the ever-living fuck would you have to log into the app to uninstall it?
We installed sea ccleaner afterwards. And did some cleanup. I did Linux on the desktop for 14 years. Went back to Windows for a few years and dropped back in for NixOS for the past couple of years and God I hate dealing with windows now…
I had this exact experience with creative cloud about 10 years ago. Adobe is actual malware and I will not allow it on my computers any longer.
I refused to log in…because I didn’t actually have one, I was just wanting to try it or something. Ended up having to go mess with the registry and use a tool from git to remove all traces of it.
Side-note: I used to use CCleaner too and I believe there was something that happened a while back (I don’t remember what, but it was related to security) and you shouldn’t use it any longer. I haven’t kept up with it, so maybe that’s not true any longer.
I believe they were packaging shitware with their binaries. It also isn’t generally healthy to do a lot of the things they do to the operating system. For a free, quick emergency on install, imo they are fine, I removed it after it got the job done.
I don’t know what the current free uninstaller is, my first thought was Revo, but it looks like somebody threw up monetization all over their shit.
I could probably have used Gandalf or something, but I haven’t updated it in a while and I just wanted CC gone.
And I didn’t even realize just how exhausting it had gotten until I switched and, even with having to relearn how to do certain things, just never felt like I was having to fight with it. It doesn’t change things and move things around on you at random, it doesn’t pester you constantly to do things unless you explicitly set it up to do so, doesn’t shove an online account down your throat, force you to accept updates on their schedule including reboots when you’re trying to get something done…
No, my machine is my machine and it does what I need and tell it to do, not what some multi trillion dollar company thinks it should do.
I genuinely don’t understand what you have trouble with that you had to fight with. Usually I’ve found it comes down to just not knowing how to do it, or doing something completely out of left field. Honestly Windows “just works”
Tell me how to show all icons in the taskbar notification area. So I can see all active programs.
Tell me how to pause updates indefinitely until I want to update. Such that my computer doesn’t restart without my sayso, causing me to lose tons of work.
Spoiler, you cannot. A computer I can’t keep turned on, or see my active programs, does not “just work”.
Using windows is just so tiring. I shouldn’t have to actively fight with the OS to do the things I need to do. Not even power user shit, it’s just that the windows experience gets more and more hostile every year.
Meanwhile, Linux quietly does what needs to be done, and offers to make it even easier to do those things, but only if I want that help.
Oh my god, this.
I spent the whole morning on my day off fighting with my kids’ windows install.
“when I open rope locks and I open chrome at the same time if everything just lags and stutters.” " I think it’s because Chrome is using 30% of my memory up when I open it. Can you help me fix it?"
What started as a educational how things actually work, what matters, what doesn’t matter, quickly evolved into why in the fuck can’t I uninstall Adobe Creative Cloud. Followed by looking up a dozen services I’ve never seen before which are apparently part of Windows now, but have names like corporate products that don’t have anything to do with Windows.
I showed him the start-up and the task scheduler and all the little bits and bobs for things to detect what’s happening. Showed him how to look through the task manager list. Uninstall the stuff that isn’t necessary, reboot, and check again.
Fucking creative Cloud would not uninstall. Hit uninstall. App opens to update. No option but to update.
I’m trying not to go in bull in a china shop because it’s a teaching moment. We search, find to delete the program data and try again. It unlocked it enough that I could log into it, then uninstall. Why the ever-living fuck would you have to log into the app to uninstall it?
We installed sea ccleaner afterwards. And did some cleanup. I did Linux on the desktop for 14 years. Went back to Windows for a few years and dropped back in for NixOS for the past couple of years and God I hate dealing with windows now…
I had this exact experience with creative cloud about 10 years ago. Adobe is actual malware and I will not allow it on my computers any longer.
I refused to log in…because I didn’t actually have one, I was just wanting to try it or something. Ended up having to go mess with the registry and use a tool from git to remove all traces of it.
Side-note: I used to use CCleaner too and I believe there was something that happened a while back (I don’t remember what, but it was related to security) and you shouldn’t use it any longer. I haven’t kept up with it, so maybe that’s not true any longer.
I believe they were packaging shitware with their binaries. It also isn’t generally healthy to do a lot of the things they do to the operating system. For a free, quick emergency on install, imo they are fine, I removed it after it got the job done.
I don’t know what the current free uninstaller is, my first thought was Revo, but it looks like somebody threw up monetization all over their shit.
I could probably have used Gandalf or something, but I haven’t updated it in a while and I just wanted CC gone.
Thanks for the tip though.
This.
And I didn’t even realize just how exhausting it had gotten until I switched and, even with having to relearn how to do certain things, just never felt like I was having to fight with it. It doesn’t change things and move things around on you at random, it doesn’t pester you constantly to do things unless you explicitly set it up to do so, doesn’t shove an online account down your throat, force you to accept updates on their schedule including reboots when you’re trying to get something done…
No, my machine is my machine and it does what I need and tell it to do, not what some multi trillion dollar company thinks it should do.
I genuinely don’t understand what you have trouble with that you had to fight with. Usually I’ve found it comes down to just not knowing how to do it, or doing something completely out of left field. Honestly Windows “just works”
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Tell me how to show all icons in the taskbar notification area. So I can see all active programs.
Tell me how to pause updates indefinitely until I want to update. Such that my computer doesn’t restart without my sayso, causing me to lose tons of work.
Spoiler, you cannot. A computer I can’t keep turned on, or see my active programs, does not “just work”.
Tell me how to not have a “live” MS account associated with my profile without having to do clandestine IT hijinks, etc
windows is hot trash