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Saw some news article from my hometown of a guy making a website about our local language/dialect. He wants it to be preserved as fewer people speak it on a daily basis now. In the state of Northern Brabant we have our own dialect but the dialect from my hometown is even more different and, imo, pretty unique. Other people from Brabant would have difficulty to understand me, for example.
You’re supposed to speak proper Dutch if you want others to understand you, of course, and that’s why fewer people speak it. It’s kinda looked down upon as lowly educated / trash, which is sad. My dad still speaks it on a daily basis. He never got the opportunity to go to school so never learned further than the dialect lol. I can speak and understand it though living abroad and with my gf from another part of The Netherlands, there’s no use in speaking it. But reading the website I agreed with him and I feel like I should just speak it when at home. Would be a shame for things like that to disappear.
Slight chance emerging of me moving back to The Netherlands. Communism coming soon.
Which org would you join if you were to move back?
That’s a good question and I’m not sure yet. I believe the most serious commie movement is Rood but I also believe they are more trotskyist in nature. To my knowledge there are no other serious marxist or ML options, I think? Suggestions would be welcome.
It also depends on where I will go. It will probably be in the Amsterdam region (kidney for sale btw) and that would give me more options than Hendrik-Ido-Ambacht or wherever of course.
I think 4 orgs are an option, with a clear ranking. These orgs are SP, BIJ1, RSP and NCPN.
SP seems to be the worst option, even though they are the biggest. They have completely abondoned their communist history. They have actively banned communist members and their youth organisation Rood seceded because of this. I think they can’t be pushed left anymore. Right now they are a socdem party, but can imagine they will be pushed even more right towards social liberalism like GLPVDA.
Then you have BIJ1, my organisation. They are better than SP but worse than the other two organisations. But they are the best option in the elections. That’s one of the reasons why I will stay until after the municipal elections. What they do the best is linking anticapitalist struggles with discrimination, especially racism in an intersectional framework. It’s important that an organisation is anti-racist, and anti-discriminatory and that POC and other marginalized communities feel at home in the party. I’m in favour of intersectionality but it needs to be linked to class struggle, but a lot of party members don’t do that. Some don’t identify as socialist, but only as intersectionalists and some only care about advocating for their own group, abandoning intersectionality. Still most of the members are socialists, and Dibi calls himself that as well. But we call our party anticapitalist like we’re still afraid of the word socialist. And because there’s a lot of different types of socialists, from MLs to Trotskyists to Anararchists to DemSocs our ideology is pretty all over the place. Some of them want ‘tankies’ out of the party. There’s even a Signal app group called ‘BIJ1 tegen tankies’. We can be pushed left but it will be difficult if not impossible, especially with people openly calling for ‘tankies’ to be removed from the party.
RSP seems like one of the best choices. They are growing fast and have some MLs in the party. Those who aren’t generally aren’t afraid to call themselves communists and are politically close to the MLs. Their youth organisation ROOD is very active as well.
NCPN is a good choice as well. They are explicitly ML and do a lot of organising although I don’t notice it that much. RSP/ROOD is bigger and more active. Their youth organisation CJB is especially active and their cutoff is only for your 30s. They don’t participate in elections, exept for one municipality and they haven’t answered my question if they will participate in more municipalities next year. They have some large growth but they’re still very small. They have a good newspaper, just like RSP/ROOD.
RSP and NCPN seem like the best options. But who of the two is better, I don’t know.
ive met some people from rood and they seem to be a mix of trots and MLs. and are quite dynamic now and focused on growth, so i think there is still room to shift ideologically
Hello everyone. Hows it going.
Going alright, only got 3 and a half hours of sleep last night though so work is going to suck. How about you?
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Vladimir Putin tried to sell me some drones behind the Albert Heijn
Someone’s gotta do something about him! I caught my kid with a hypersonic missile the other day and he wouldn’t tell me where he got it but I just know it was that good for nothing Putin.
I’m not quite sure how to word this but I got threatened at the place I work at.
It’s weird, because I can’t quite say that it was a direct threat.
Basically what happened is that two kids walked into the store asking for a lighter. Age restriction. I don’t give a fuck and actually give them some recommendations on some places that could possibly serve the needs they want in terms of a 2 dollar fucking bic lighter. Instead, they beg me for it, before asking me if I heard of what happened to the neighboring 7/11.
Mind you, the neighboring 7/11 got raided by multiple kids ranging from the age of 14-20. Ironic number, because I know one of the ones who is a regular who is 20 that is obviously connected to the two that came in later.
The two asked me if I heard of “Lee” who got his head cracked with a vase at the counter. I promise you, genuinely, because I thought they were shooting the shit after me telling them about the neighboring places that they could get “goods” from (oh shit, fed activity), I responded by showing them my 10 inch karambit and telling them I wasn’t worried about it. (didn’t flick it/show blade, didn’t try to brandish it as in “hey I’ll hurt you”, just simply like “hey i’m good, no worries”)
It wasn’t until they left immediately after “brandishing” that I realized they were trying to threaten me with that 7/11 comment. I genuinely had no idea. Now, I wonder if I should get a autism diagnosis. Only because I asked two people who came in afterwards if it sounded like a threat and they agreed. What do you all think? I honestly feel like an asshole for “brandishing” a weapon towards some kids who were literally talking about someone cracking a head at the neighboring gas station and me showing that I can defend myself; not even in a “fuck you way” but like “hey, I"m alright”.
I dunno, do I get a lawyer after this?
Nah dude I think yer fine. They wont tell anyone you threatened them because snithces get stitches. They are gonna tell the other kids that they shouldn’t fuck around while you are on shift.
In their eyes you didn’t even flinch when they were threatening you. You basically told them you are prepared to open a clown up without acting like you cared one way or another. They think you are cold as ice.
lol that’s awesome, wasn’t tryna go john-wick. I appreciate the insight tho.
was hoping they weren’t rich-shits.
What’s the “most communist” image you have on your computer right now?
Mine is this picture of a golden statue of Oh Chi Minh surrounded by gold star on red and hammer and sickle flags:
Goes hard fr
It does!
I’m on my phone currently but probably the flag of the Spartacus League
Edit 1.
Almost forgot to add this banger:
I don’t have that many communist images on my computer. This is the most communist one I could find
I’d say this is the best I’ve got.
Or maybe this one:
after a short look this is the best I have.
Not an image, but the first communist related media that I found when scrolling through my phone gallery
a photo of our toothbrush
hello friends, I’m new :3
I’ve got my driver’s license parking exam in 3 days so hopefully that goes well!!
Hello
You have to send me an animal video now does are the rules
i haven’t figured out how videos work on this site just yet :') … but here’s my latest fav animal photo instead!
I just link a video from the internet
Welcome comrade, and good luck!
hi new, i’m dad
Hey everyone, I’m also new so thank you for having me!
There’s a crazy amount of learning when you accept that capitalism doesn’t hold the answers. It’s overwhelming at times, but we must remember that we deserve better and keep going.
What’s the best way to read Gramsci in English? He’s not on marxists.org and I’ve never found another way to read the prison notebooks for free. Buying isn’t an option where I live.
I can’t comment on the quality, but you can find translations of his prison notebooks on Anna’s Archive
Thank you!
So do y’all think the Republican (and to an extent Democratic) politicians are actual Christians or is it just a tool to relate to the masses? Like, do you think they really believe in God and whatever?
i don’t think “actual Christian” is a meaningful demarcation. There’s no basis to claim one side or the the other of any schism was correct. various christians have wildly different ideaas of what they think god is, even within denominations.
most of them practice american civil religion which is syncretic merging of cultural background radiation jesus and founding fathers worship. A whole bunch of them believe god communicates with them, but that’s on a spectrum from vibes to whatever the hell is wrong with michelle bachman.
I meant more like: are they believers or just atheists doing whatever it takes to be in power. Can’t see Trump actually going to church or praying every night out of his own initiative.
trump seemed concerned about actually going to hell
Bit of A, bit of B. When it’s such a useful tool for hegemony, even the “true believers” end up swept by that too. They mutually reinforce each other and form a “politician’s Christianity.”
There are probaly like one or two true believers. There are a few who believe in god and have chosen conciously to be on the devils side. and there are a bunch that just cynically use it as rhetoric.
As a collective whole? Con artists who don’t believe a word they preach.
As specific individuals? Varies; some are true believers that genuinely think they’re abiding by the will of God, some are frauds who just tell people what they want to hear, some really believe but are ignorant hypocrites who can’t see it.
The parties as parties are charlatans but the individual members of those parties are understandably far more diverse.
I hope you all have a nice week :D
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I see hundreds of people every day and as soon as the weather drops to 10-15 degrees it is a non stop infection risk. Fucking sucks to get sick on a regular basis because of it.
Zinc help, but it must be taken as a preventative measure
Das lied vom Kompromiss by Ernst Busch is a goofy ass song.
Lol, yes it is, i bet people who don’t speak German and try to read a translation are very confused. But it’s still frighteningly accurate and applicable to present day German politics, just replace Ebert with Scholz. Written in 1919 but sounds like it’s talking about the Groko of the 2010s or the Ampel.