The far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party has topped a nationwide opinion poll. Meanwhile, Kenyan athletes won both the men's and women's races at the Berlin Marathon. DW has the latest from Germany.
So what exactly do you suggest to do? I don’t vote for them and I don’t know people that vote for them (or at least they don’t tell me). What am I supposed to do with the next weekly poll that as not consequences? If some asshole drives his car into a crowd tomorrow … and he happens to be brown enough, their poll will go up again. But in 4 years that won’t matter anymore.
So what am I supposed to do with this info? Also, even if they stay at their current polling for 4 years that doesn’t mean they’ll get to govern. Unless they manage to get 50+%, they have to form a coalition. It’s unlikely.
I just don’t see the value this kind of reporting adds. The headline might as well be “things continue to be be shitty”.
that is not true. it is a snapshot of current voter mentality. if this doesn’t turn around it’s only going to grow and get worse. that’s what this is useful for.
Right and the mentality has almost 4 years to change and a lot of things can happen in 4 years. Which is why the current mentality really doesn’t matter.
You were doing great. I agree with you on the facts, your conclusion is baffling though. The polls don’t matter right this second, but mentality absolutely does. What planet do you live on where cause and effect have no relation?
I am confused does thise poll matters or not? In your first comment you said in doesn’t, on your latest you are saying that those polls hurt democracy so that mean it has an effect and that it matter
Poor effort. Neither subject change relates to what has been said.
And just humor your daftness, there’s actual studies (global) that show indifference and obliviousness to current events are more harmful to democracy than any other single factor
you’re not understanding. cultures take longer than 4 years to fully foment. they have to go through a lengthy growing process where they are ignored then embraced, maybe ignored again, it’s a whole thing. cultures start, then stop, then restart; or sometimes they take over and push full steam ahead. you cannot know how this current climate will be received by generations preceding it and what kind of legacy it inspires or leaves behind. it’s horrifying to know that you have four years of this potential growth. why would this wane?
Right and the current government is right-wing neoliberals. They’re only going to make everyone’s lives worse so unless die Linke manages to drastically improve its reach, the discontented masses will continue to move towards fascism.
The are generally pacifists and reject military spending. The official party program still contains the goal of leaving NATO and forming a defensive alliance with Russia.
To be fair, a lot of their politicians have softened their stance on these issue in the face of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine but, at least from my perspective, the party itself still clings to overly idealistic policies that are just absurd in the current geopolitical climate.
The do have very good domestic policies though and I’d vote for them in local and state elections (sadly I can’t because I live abroad). But for my federal vote, they really have to update their stance on foreign policies.
There isn’t a federal election until 2029, so these polls really don’t matter.
That’s the attitude that got America where it is. Stamp that shit out now.
So what exactly do you suggest to do? I don’t vote for them and I don’t know people that vote for them (or at least they don’t tell me). What am I supposed to do with the next weekly poll that as not consequences? If some asshole drives his car into a crowd tomorrow … and he happens to be brown enough, their poll will go up again. But in 4 years that won’t matter anymore.
So what am I supposed to do with this info? Also, even if they stay at their current polling for 4 years that doesn’t mean they’ll get to govern. Unless they manage to get 50+%, they have to form a coalition. It’s unlikely.
I just don’t see the value this kind of reporting adds. The headline might as well be “things continue to be be shitty”.
that is not true. it is a snapshot of current voter mentality. if this doesn’t turn around it’s only going to grow and get worse. that’s what this is useful for.
The snapshot is not necessarily accurate thought. Who answers polls now other than political extremists?
you make a valid point. polls are not all equally important. this could be an insignificant one.
Right and the mentality has almost 4 years to change and a lot of things can happen in 4 years. Which is why the current mentality really doesn’t matter.
It rarely change unless there is an unexpected event
You were doing great. I agree with you on the facts, your conclusion is baffling though. The polls don’t matter right this second, but mentality absolutely does. What planet do you live on where cause and effect have no relation?
Well, feel free to worry about the polls every week then.
Here is an articles that explains why these weekly “fake elections” polls might actually be harmful to democracy (German).
I am confused does thise poll matters or not? In your first comment you said in doesn’t, on your latest you are saying that those polls hurt democracy so that mean it has an effect and that it matter
Poor effort. Neither subject change relates to what has been said.
And just humor your daftness, there’s actual studies (global) that show indifference and obliviousness to current events are more harmful to democracy than any other single factor
you’re not understanding. cultures take longer than 4 years to fully foment. they have to go through a lengthy growing process where they are ignored then embraced, maybe ignored again, it’s a whole thing. cultures start, then stop, then restart; or sometimes they take over and push full steam ahead. you cannot know how this current climate will be received by generations preceding it and what kind of legacy it inspires or leaves behind. it’s horrifying to know that you have four years of this potential growth. why would this wane?
Right and the current government is right-wing neoliberals. They’re only going to make everyone’s lives worse so unless die Linke manages to drastically improve its reach, the discontented masses will continue to move towards fascism.
Once die Linke stops sucking Russian cock they can have my vote on the federal level. They got 4 years to make it happen.
What do they do in this manner?
The are generally pacifists and reject military spending. The official party program still contains the goal of leaving NATO and forming a defensive alliance with Russia.
To be fair, a lot of their politicians have softened their stance on these issue in the face of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine but, at least from my perspective, the party itself still clings to overly idealistic policies that are just absurd in the current geopolitical climate.
The do have very good domestic policies though and I’d vote for them in local and state elections (sadly I can’t because I live abroad). But for my federal vote, they really have to update their stance on foreign policies.