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    Seems like a far-fetched understanding. In order for this to make any sense as he is claiming then the Philippines must have recently started drifting toward the Chinese sphere of influence which is easily disproved. It makes zero sense to stage a color revolution in a puppet regime who already voluntarily lets the Amerikkkan empire write their textbook, shape their superstructure, and participate in joint military drills.

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      In order for this to make any sense as he is claiming then the Philippines must have recently started drifting toward the Chinese sphere of influence

      No, it doesn’t need to have been drifting towards China. All the motivation they need is wanting someone even more extreme and in their pocket, like Leni Robredo whom Marcos beat in 2022. Did you watchthe video? Did you pay particular attention at 21:30?

      Brian’s speculation that Marcos may have said no to them in some crucial respect is, of course, speculation but makes sense.

      The biggest “tell” is, of course, the timing of the three color revolutions and the copy and paste similarity of optics andtalking points.

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      The only basis for this is cuz lesser evilism (cuz somehow Bongbong “Martial Law” Marcos is better than Leni “NED” Roberdo) and US backed NGO Tindig (backed by NED’s NDI and IRI), which, while co-optive of the protests, I argue only is to hedge their bets.

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    i dont think this is a fair assessment of the filipino protests. he singles out an english article which tindig is mentioned, but the vast majority of these protests were grassroots and some even led by bayan and other national democratic groups who are ML. I think he shows a lack of knowledge in the conditions of the philippines.

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      If you look at any US supported color revolution there will always be organic actors and factors. The operation exploits existing tensions, pushes things in a certain direction at an opportune moment.

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        The operation exploits existing tensions, pushes things in a certain direction at an opportune moment.

        Could you explain to me how the US doing a color revolution in this time is an ‘opportune moment’, after recently doing some western military drills with the Philippines’ Marcos gov’t, who has ended the national Belt and Road initiative and has basically clashed with the Dutertes over their pro-China stance?

        Oh, and don’t get me started on his military base expansion:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_bases_in_the_Philippines#The_Enhanced_Defense_Cooperation_Agreement

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            Kasi yung Leni? Ofc, she’s a NED-lady but that doesn’t make Bongbong Marcos’ gov’t any less pro U.S - it’s not an independent force

            You may say “he’s coerced”, but so is any leader when you have an occupier in your backyard propping your gov’t, and, unless you have a short memory, you must remember this is the son of the U.S-backed dictator, Ferdinand Marcos, unless Bongbong makes a break with such polices, this is essentially like-father like-son system where it serves the US’s interests, and in return, they live in luxury.

            I don’t think you know much about the Philippines, and I don’t approve of you doing this lesser evilism.

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              Kasi yung Leni? Ofc, she’s a NED-lady

              Well there ya go.

              I don’t approve of you doing this lesser evilism.

              Analysis of current events in light of US strategic goals and well established patterns of interference is neither a moral argument nor an endorsement of Bongbong.

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                nor is your argument a sound one. How is this opportune time and how is Bongbong challenging US? You or Berlectic have yet to provide evidence of that.

                Give me material and strategic interests, beyond this idealism you put up in your head that they merely want more loyal person than Marcoses, and maybe I respond well.

                I repeat, unless Bongbong makes a break with such polices, this is essentially like-father like-son system where it serves the US’s interests, and in return, they live in luxury.

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                  Not all NED funded protests of this sort aim at regime change. Some merely serve the purpose of applying pressure on a comprador regime that may be getting too comfortable and independent minded, to ensure they remain loyal, make them feel insecure in their position and understand that, should they step out of line, the US can immediately activate its regime change apparatus and do to them what was just done to Nepal. Is that what is happening in the Philippines? I don’t know. I don’t think we have enough evidence at the moment to draw a definitive conclusion. Time will tell.

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                  Every comprador and accomplice of the oinking pig demons of the US empire eventually gets a knife in the back. Doesn’t matter how much of a good little boy Bongbong was if they can get a fraction of a better deal or slightly more cooperation with someone else, especially at a crucial moment when they’re setting dumpster fires across Asia.

                  Again, this is not an endorsement of Bongbong nor a dismissal of legitimate grievances against him.