As you can see from the screenshot, we have been the top community on Lemmygrad for this month. This is likely due to the sudden influx of users following the Reddit ban. However, as time goes on, I would expect this to fluctuate again as the new Lemmy users find their way across this platform and gain more familiarity with different communities on the Lemmyverse.
With this likely upcoming change in mind, I created this post after I had this conversation right here, where some users pointed out the difference in reach between Reddit and Lemmygrad.
On the old sub, we had an automod (preprogrammed responses) that provided short answers to the same frequently asked questions that we have all seen many times. For example, typing !holodomor
would trigger an automod reply with a short introduction and additional links and information for further reading on the topic.
Example of automod reply for !holodomor
The Holodomor
Marxists do not deny that a famine happened in the Soviet Union in 1932. In fact, even the Soviet archive confirms this. What we do contest is the idea that this famine was man-made or that there was a genocide against the Ukrainian people. This idea of the subjugation of the Soviet Union’s own people was developed by Nazi Germany, in order to show the world the terror of the “Jewish communists.”
- Socialist Musings. (2017). Stop Spreading Nazi Propaganda: on Holodomor
There have been efforts by anti-Communists and Ukrainian nationalists to frame the Soviet famine of 1932-1933 as “The Holodomor” (lit. “to kill by starvation” in Ukrainian). Framing it this way serves two purposes:
- It implies the famine targeted Ukraine.
- It implies the famine was intentional.
The argument goes that because it was intentional and because it mainly targeted Ukraine that it was, therefore, an act of genocide. This framing was originally used by Nazis to drive a wedge between the Ukrainian SSR (UkSSR) and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). In the wake of the 2004 Orange Revolution, this narrative has regained popularity and serves the nationalistic goal of strengthening Ukrainian identity and asserting the country’s independence from Russia.
Additional Resourcs:
- Soviet Famine of 1932: An Overview | The Marxist Project (2020)
- Did Stalin Continue to Export Grain as Ukraine Starved? | Hakim (2017) Archive
- The Years of Hunger: Soviet Agriculture, 1931-1933 | Davies and Wheatcroft (2004)
- The “Holodomor” explained | TheFinnishBolshevik (2020)
While such automod responses were very useful on a platform like Reddit (where all sorts of users might get recommended the subreddit or a particularly popular post among their suggestions), those automod responses are less relevant on Lemmygrad itself because of its nature (an openly Marxist-Leninist forum with a registration procedure) and its defederation from other instances (defederation simply means other instances are no longer allowed to interact with/view content of Lemmygrad itself).
Lemmygrad has already defederated from more reactionary, liberal or “apolitical” instances. To my knowledge, these are all the instances that do not allow Lemmygrad to interact with their own instances:
- lemmy.dbzer0.com, lemmy.world, feddit.de, sh.itjust.works, lemmy.blahaj.zone, midwest.social, lemmings.world, szmer.info, astraea.pink, feddit.org, feddit.kyiv.ua.
I got the above list from here, where you can read some of the instances’ own “reasoning” for defederating from Lemmygrad…
TLDR from here ↓
So, while Lemmygrad is clearly a safe space for Marxist discussion where there is less harassment from anti communists, this comes with limited reach outside Marxist communities and posts/comments from Lemmygrad will not appear on those instances, limiting cross-instance visibility.
This is not necessarily a drawback, of course. For example, from my point of view, being on a platform like Lemmygrad involves fewer daily actions required as a mod than I had to perform on Reddit. But if you are one of the users that joined more recently, you might see it differently. So it really depends.
That is why I am opening this discussion, to hear more opinions from the very same users that interact with this community.
Do you see Lemmygrad primarily as a great space for studying theory among fellow communists and building solidarity in a protected space? Or maybe you think the Deprogram is more about outreach and engaging with a broader leftist audience (including those not yet Marxist)? Or maybe something else entirely?
Feel free to express your thoughts and opinions on this, so that we can have a better understanding of the type of user that interact with this community.
What you could do is spin up companion communities on Lemmy.ml for The Deprogram as a way to reach a broader audience, and then implement a bot that does what Automod did on Reddit, but for the Lemmy.ml deprogram community.
That being said, I think one of the most valuable resources provided by r/the_deprogram was the wiki. Lemmy currently lacks a built-in wiki for communities, and who can say if it’ll ever get one. However, there are a lot of self-hosted options for Wiki sites, and it could be a cool project to start up again. Though you could also take that information and use it to improve Prolewiki.
Yes, I was contemplating this too.
I actually already created a community for the Deprogram on Lemmy.ml but haven’t done anything with it yet because I wanted to make this post first to have feedback from the users now that we’ve had some time to settle in Lemmygrad after the ban
Shortly after the Reddit ban, I was reorganizing the resources I had still available and I asked the Lemmygrad admins for their opinions on how best to proceed for incorporating those resources into Prolewiki.
However, the fantastic editors already incorporated everything, so the old r/TheDeprogram wiki has already been added to Prolewiki!!
There’s still a bit of jankiness in the incorporation btw but it’s getting there, hopefully
Seeing the impressive work of the editors, I’m sure it will get there for sure :) but what type of jankiness? Maybe the old wiki style doesn’t fully match the tone that was already present in the page itself?
Aah it’s mostly internal stuff in how to incorporate, I only followed tangentially so even I don’t know too much. But from what I heard it’s getting there slowly.
Ooh fair enough! Seeing the quality of the work over at Prolewiki, I completely understand then
Oh hell yeah! Are they part of existing articles, or do they exist as their own separate articles?
They have been incorporated to the existing entries to avoid having multiple articles covering the same topic :)
If you need to use a video hosting website lemmy federates with peertube, they one hexbear uses its called tankietube in case you want to back up the deprograms videos in case of youtube censorship
Federation with a peertube instance looks like this https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9194474
Unofficially Lemmygrad’s wiki is https://prolewiki.org/ See for example https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Lemmygrad and https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Reddit