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Why is the MAGA administration so hell bent on pushing China to the top as the global power?
I understand that Cluater B is going to Cluster B, that is how their wiring works. But why is everyone else around Trump supporting this agenda that only weakens and demeans the United States?
Something you need to understand about the Americans here is that they’re not some scheming rats planning the most optimal way of bringing their autocratic future to bear through some hyperdimensional game of chess. They are idiots, all of them, with zero foresight, just reacting to things in impulsive, corrupt ways. The most foresight they have is displayed when they short stocks.
What is best for the public is not necessarily what is best for the ruling class.
Sure, but as Americans how do they benefit from China rising to the top?
By design.
2016 Trump wrecked the US under Putins orders.
2025 Trump is wrecking the US in spite for losing in 2020.
Friend of mine was dating a neuroscience PhD in Syndey, Australia. When they met, he was near flat broke and moved in just to help defray the cost of rent.
A couple years later, he was approached by a Chinese recruiter that offered him a $2M signing bonus and a $1.5M salary to move to Tsinghua University and join their $10M/year neuroscience program. They literally don’t know what to do with all the money and mostly continue to live these modest lives with comically oversized bank accounts. He gets to play with cutting edge equipment alongside a sizeable staff. She takes care of a small house in the country and raises bunnies for fun.
Ah yes. Talent programs.
Whatever you do, don’t ask them to talk about the government haha.
Also true of the US and UK right now.
“hur durr your country also bad”
We can make fun of multiple authoritarian countries at once thank you. It dilutes the point to toss it in every single time with those specifics.
Kinda, I can say Trump is a child fucker and Xi sucks Pooh cock online, and I (or my family) won’t be thrown into a jail cell.
For now… at least.
I can say Trump is a child fucker
You can scream it into a paper bag, sure.
But good luck keeping your job as a host on The View or a special investigator at the FBI.
Can’t say anything about freeing Palestine in the UK or you’ll get arrested though.
Trump is hell bent on accelerating China’s way to the top.
Except in many aspects they are no longer on the way, they are already there, so what Trump is doing, is also helping China increase their lead.
Many think China is still just a low level production hub for the world. But the reality is that China is already outsourcing production to neighboring countries, and China is now among the world leaders in 8 out of 10 key industries for the future, unmatched by any other country or EU.They just have so many people. They could replace entire major foreign industries and still have people left over.
Couple that with a government willing to do whatever infrastructure and monitary policy and you end up with a ton of growth.
The US may have just had a corporate takeover and will end probably end up looking more like China or Russia going forward.
There are a lot of natural resources here and if you’re not particularly concerned with the local environment or economy, you could probably get a lot done.
I also can’t imagine a future without China having the largest consumer class going forward and that probably represents a valuable market.
They just have so many people.
Yes more than USA and EU combined, but it used to not help much, because they were so far behind. The progress for the past half century is really remarkable by any standard.
Couple that with a government willing to do whatever infrastructure and monetary policy
China has absolutely been killing it on developing infrastructure and education for half a century.
But despite that, authoritarian states, like dictatorships and the 1 party system of China belong to, usually never has that or really can leverage it even if they have decent policies. Because it usually turns out to be a matter of working for the oligarchs, and working for the oligarchs is generally little different than working for the Mafia, and that stifles development. But somehow they’ve made it work in China.if you’re not particularly concerned with the local environment or economy, you could probably get a lot done.
In some regards they are doing more for the environment than USA. I’m not sure what you mean by not caring about the economy, because they absolutely do. But they have a different perspective on it that seems more like Europe than American. I think what EU is to USA is what China is to Europe in that regard. In China they look more at the big picture, while USA is very focused on the money here and now.
going forward and that probably represents a valuable market.
They already do, in many respects China is already the biggest market, in for instance Mobile phones, Electric vehicles, housing etc. China is already by far the biggest market. And for instance apart from Apple and Samsung being number 1 and 2, China has the next 8 biggest phone makers in the world, and Huawei actually was #1 at a point, until USA prevented them from using Android and the best chips.
What I’m really curious about is the coming mega projects China will probably be able to do, that will potentially far exceed what any other country is capable of. This can be both in engineering and science.
USA did the atom bomb, integrated circuits, moon landing, Internet, and was a leader of democracy for making democracy the most popular form of governance.
No doubt USA has had a historically huge impact on modern civilization, and I suspect we will see similar things from China in the future. Hopefully not so much like the Atom bomb, but more all the other stuff.
Racist headline
Actually, no.
“woos” = more than one “Wu” (吳)
I think they were trying to explain their joke.
If I had made that as a joke, I’d use a tong out smiley.
