Yeah this is one of those topics where you kinda just have to let it go. If someone wants to say “yeah those fuckin fascists deserved it!” it’s just an argument born of emotion overpowering logic, which is a problem when analyzing events in the present and future, but not really a big deal when analyzing the past. People can be vindictive and irrational regarding shit that already happened, I don’t care. As long as nobody’s advocating for dropping any nukes today we’re good.
(Seriously though dropping the nukes was one of the most horrific crimes ever committed)
I think I get “exhausted” per se, with this specifically because I feel like some people not only get emotional, but also tend to “play god.”
Like in the post, I’m reminded a lot of the god of the old testament. Where he looks upon Sodom and Gomorrah and wipes them out, or how the Egyptians were punished with plagues, darkness and death for their Pharoah’s actions against the Jews. (Note: this isnt me accusing people of having a “Christian mindset” or something relating to this. This is just my own analogy)
This type of violence and destruction seems very appetizing for a reason. It’s not like these tales of destruction are limited to the Bible. But I think it gets very metaphysical (if im using that term right, I hope). There was a good quote by Jacob Geller in a recent video of his. “The earth doesn’t cry out for vengeance, it just cries.” There’s no law of equivalent exchange when it comes to this. And, as much as you might wish it, you’re not god. You cannot free the proletariat by foisting plagues upon the empire’s population.
And looking at it from a more material point of view, it’s not like the nukes made Japan more remorseful, if anything they’re less remorseful (although I’m sure they would’ve latched onto something else. It’s not like the nazis are shutting up about Dresden or the Red Army “mass rapes” any time soon).
Like I said, I dont typically bring it up since it’s either not novel at best and a fight starter at worst. I just don’t get the logic of supporters usually, and my brain automatically wants to reconcile the problem
The main issue with the U.S. nuking Japan is that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rather pointless cities to get nuked. I’d be more okay if they nuked Tokyo to actually punish the Japanese imperialists living there, or firebombed the Japanese imperialists’ vacation homes in the Japanese countryside.
Also, if China could glass the entirety of the United States and ensure the victory of global socialism, they should do it.
Yeah this is one of those topics where you kinda just have to let it go. If someone wants to say “yeah those fuckin fascists deserved it!” it’s just an argument born of emotion overpowering logic, which is a problem when analyzing events in the present and future, but not really a big deal when analyzing the past. People can be vindictive and irrational regarding shit that already happened, I don’t care. As long as nobody’s advocating for dropping any nukes today we’re good.
(Seriously though dropping the nukes was one of the most horrific crimes ever committed)
I think I get “exhausted” per se, with this specifically because I feel like some people not only get emotional, but also tend to “play god.”
Like in the post, I’m reminded a lot of the god of the old testament. Where he looks upon Sodom and Gomorrah and wipes them out, or how the Egyptians were punished with plagues, darkness and death for their Pharoah’s actions against the Jews. (Note: this isnt me accusing people of having a “Christian mindset” or something relating to this. This is just my own analogy)
This type of violence and destruction seems very appetizing for a reason. It’s not like these tales of destruction are limited to the Bible. But I think it gets very metaphysical (if im using that term right, I hope). There was a good quote by Jacob Geller in a recent video of his. “The earth doesn’t cry out for vengeance, it just cries.” There’s no law of equivalent exchange when it comes to this. And, as much as you might wish it, you’re not god. You cannot free the proletariat by foisting plagues upon the empire’s population.
And looking at it from a more material point of view, it’s not like the nukes made Japan more remorseful, if anything they’re less remorseful (although I’m sure they would’ve latched onto something else. It’s not like the nazis are shutting up about Dresden or the Red Army “mass rapes” any time soon).
Like I said, I dont typically bring it up since it’s either not novel at best and a fight starter at worst. I just don’t get the logic of supporters usually, and my brain automatically wants to reconcile the problem
The main issue with the U.S. nuking Japan is that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rather pointless cities to get nuked. I’d be more okay if they nuked Tokyo to actually punish the Japanese imperialists living there, or firebombed the Japanese imperialists’ vacation homes in the Japanese countryside.
Also, if China could glass the entirety of the United States and ensure the victory of global socialism, they should do it.
Nuking any city was pointless. Japan was no longer capable of waging war in any meaningful capacity.
And the US knew it. They already knew Japan was starting surrender negotiations