Hi, I am not exactly sure how best to frame this, but recent events have got me wondering where exactly Framework, as a company, stands with regards to human rights and equality. If I understand correctly (and please do correct me if I am wrong), it seems like Framework has started sponsoring Hyprland: So I presume this is fact: Framework, as a company, has decided to sponsor a Wayland compositor who is well known to be led as a rather “toxic and hateful community”. Separately, but on the ...

Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I’m disappointed in framework’s answer so far

  • Oxysis/Oxy@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    410·
    2 days ago

    They have been off my wishlist purely because of the cost, even DYI with missing pieces is $550. That’s more than my laptop was new so pass.

    • Damage@feddit.itEnglish
      1·
      13 hours ago

      I bought one because I’m tired of having to scour ebay or AliExpress for replacement parts for my laptops.

      I think people too often try to spend the minimum possible amount of money for a certain set of specs and then forget about build quality, support and so on.

      • Oxysis/Oxy@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        0·
        12 hours ago

        I mean price is a very fair criticism though, especially with the current state of the economy. If you can afford the higher cost for worse specs but better repairability then great. If you can’t then you kinda have to go with a non-reparable option, but at least those guarantee a charger in the box.

        • Damage@feddit.itEnglish
          1·
          10 hours ago

          Yeah sure but it’s the usual conundrum: spend more upfront or spend more on the long run? I use my laptops A LOT, they wear out relatively quickly, so I gave up on cheap ones years ago, I hope that the repairability will give me better value on the long run.

          Everyone’s got their own priorities of course, I have multiple USB chargers that are better than anything that may come from the manufacturer, so having one in the box doesn’t really make a difference, that may be different for others. I even bought mine without an SSD, I took it off my previous (dead) laptop.

    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      22 hours ago

      A product like the Framework laptops is inevitably going to be more costly.

      Not only do they not have the scale of Dell, HP, Apple, etc, but they also need to use modular components, factor upgradability into the design, etc.

      Even for the DIY ones, someone has to hand assemble it fully, test it, then strip it down again. That’s additional cost and process complexity.