• 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works
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    22 hours ago

    Honestly, is there any product or material from the US that can’t be obtained in another country? Am I wrong to think that the rest of the world will just shrug and get what they need elsewhere? I mean the appeal of the US to other countries is our insatiable appetite for consumption, which can be leveraged for favorable trade deals. If we stop buying foreign goods because they are so expensive, we’re just fucked.

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        22 hours ago

        Made in Taiwan … exactly. The company might be American, but the product isn’t. The company is easily replaced by another with enough startup capital, and China has plenty of that.

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          8 hours ago

          Yeah, not really. If you look at CPUs, there is no equivalent to modern CPUs in China, they all lag many years behind and taiwanese production line is restricted to them. Eventually China might catch up and surpasse US, but not in the near future as it takes enormous resources including time.

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            7 hours ago

            The gap has been getting smaller every year, and thanks to stagnation from amd and Intel, it’s nonexistent in the consumer and business market. Chinas consumer grade CPUs are on the same performance as five year old chips, roughly speaking. Most people don’t upgrade their CPUs that often and genuinely don’t need to these days.

            The biggest difference is in cuda-like and similar chips, but thanks to ridiculous levels of foreign investment that gap is also narrowing.

            The Linux kernel already supports them by the way.

            China has been planning for a us led export ban on all computer components for three decades now, since Clinton originally started talking about it. There’s a reason Taiwan is still allowed to be an autonomous region, and it’s not because China thinks it would damage the chip fabs during an invasion.