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Katie talks to former Green party vice-presidential nominee Butch Ware about his run for Governor of California, his thoughts on Gavin Newsom and Katie Porter and his critique of Zohran Mamdani for protecting Hakeem Jeffries, Zionism and “playing footsie” with fascists.
But first we talk to Bad Hasbara co-hosts Matt Lieb and Daniel Maté about former Obama speech-writer Sarah Hurwitz who has unwittingly exposed the Zionist weaponization of the Holocaust and antisemitism in a way no anti-zionist ever could.
Butch Ware is a lifelong activist and educator specializing in the history of empire, colonialism, genocide and revolution. He is associate professor of History at UC Santa-Barbara. He was the 2024 vice-presidential nominee for the Green Party. He is running for Governor of California.
Matt Lieb is a comedian, podcaster, accidental award winning journalist, and guy from Good Mythical Morning. He hosts the podcast Bad Hasbara. Daniel Maté is the co-host of Bad Hasbara, a musical theater lyricist, the world’s only mental chiropractor, and the co-author of “The Myth Of Normal: Trauma, Illness, and Healing in a Toxic Culture” by Gabor Maté. He also co-wrote with Katie the Parody song “Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now: The Genocidal Remix” a duet by Biden and Bibi [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEG76hlnhNw]


Don’t give me that wide brush bullshit. Quiet submittal is not what I mean, and to stop giving one a chance is to completely torch the idea of shared humanity. The idea that Mamdani ‘sold out’ before he has even had an opportunity to disappoint is the height of defeatism, and to tar those who attempt to lead with the feathers of the evil say anything politician is an exercise in pre-emptive concession.
Reality is more nuanced than than quoting historical figures from a different time and social situation. Spreading the message you’ve spread, we may as well never trust anybody ever again who tries to help and captures hearts and minds.
History doesn’t repeat, it rhymes, but we don’t have to feel stuck in the same verse.