• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    21 hours ago

    Yep, that’s why we need to have revolutionary optimism. Right now, incredible strides are being made by socialist countries like China to combat climate change and push for electrification and sustainability.

    • Aljernon@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      14 hours ago

      Calling a country where the means of production are controlled by the upper classes “socialist” is a stretch even before we consider their mixed economy and rampant capitalism.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        14 hours ago

        Public ownership is the principle aspect of their economy, and a working class party has domination over their state. The large firms and key industries are overwhelmingly publicly owned, with massive state owned enterprises forming the backbone of their economy. Private, cooperative, and joint-stock ownership covers mostly the small and medium firms, and the larger of these are heavily controlled and influenced by the CPC.

        As for being “mixed,” all economies are mixed, that doesn’t mean we can’t identify what the principle aspect of the economy is. Socialism isn’t a “pure” mode of production, and neither is capitalism, you don’t have X% capitalism, Y% socialism, etc. That’s not how modes of production work.

        • Aljernon@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          13 hours ago

          Saying the public has ownership implies that they have some control of it which certainly isn’t true. It’s more like a Palace economy than anything.