Look, obviously I’m not going to humour this deliberately playing dumb. You know what the difference is.

I will not stop. The question remains unanswered: What’s the difference? Would it be justiified for France to notice that Wallonia hasn’t held a referendum on joining them, invade and then hold their own referendum there?

I have repeatedly told you that the referendum was before the invasion. I can only assume that you pretending otherwise is just another instance of you deliberately wasting time.

And I’ve repeatedly replied that the post-2014 referendums held by the Luhansk’s People’s Republic and Donetsk Republic don’t represent everyone in the Donbass. Is that the referendum you are referring to here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Donbas_status_referendums

Are you referring to these?

Better system than your “referendums are only legitimate if they agree with what I want” perspective.

That’s not my perspective.

The one you had to be repeatedly told happened before the Russian invasion.

No, I knew that happened. I just didn’t think you genuinely thought a referendum that took place in a pocket of the Donbass area was somehow binding on the entire population of the Donbass. Apparently I was wrong.

Ok, I’ll start doing it to. What do you mean? I clearly gave you an answer. As I have mostly. What do you think “giving an answer” means? And what do you think “usual” means?

No, you’ve hardly provided any answers.

You didn’t even know what year it took place in before this conversation

As I said: No, I knew that happened. I just didn’t think you genuinely thought a referendum that took place in a pocket of the Donbass area was somehow binding on the entire population of the Donbass. Apparently I was wrong.

You also clearly don’t realize that they aren’t part of Donbas.

No. I’ve pointed out that Russia also held sham referendums in the Kherson and the Zap oblasts. That even if the Donbass referendums prior to 2022 in the 2014-22 republics were somehow meaningful - that wouldn’t somehow bind Kherson and the Zap oblasts. Russia also claims them too. What does the Donbass have to do with them? All you do when I bring them up is say that they’re irrelevant, for some reason.

Nope. Anyone can go back and read what you said.

No, it was not. That was not ever my position.

I have repeatedly told you that the referendum was before the invasion. I can only assume that you pretending otherwise is just another instance of you deliberately wasting time.

As I said: I’m well aware of the referendums that the breakaway states conducted. I don’t see how they’re especially authoritative for the reasons I’ve already provided.

So no, you don’t recognize the conflict of interest.

Not what I asked you: Do you have any credible evidence that a majority of people from the Donbass wanted to leave?

Better system than your “referendums are only legitimate if they agree with what I want” perspective.

That’s not what I asked you. You seem to have a binary view on all referendums. So do you reject or accept them all?

You can’t do both.

I have repeatedly told you that the referendum was before the invasion. I can only assume that you pretending otherwise is just another instance of you deliberately wasting time.

As I said: I’m well aware of the referendums that the breakaway states conducted. I don’t see how they’re especially authoritative for the reasons I’ve already provided.