• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I too love genocidal regimes and war crimes. Can’t get enough of that mass slaughter of civilians and kidnapping of children.

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        2 months ago

        Kidnapping? Palestinians dream someone kidnap their kids like that - got them away from warzone with food and shelter.

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            2 months ago

            Wikipedia, according to itself, isn’t a reliable source when it comes to such internationally hot topics. It’s primarily written by western young men who are mostly exposed exclusively to western media, and the articles they write are referenced by this same media. If you wanna read a bit more on this, I did a writeup some weeks ago about this very topic, sourcing my information from wikipedia itself.

            With this I don’t mean to say that the accusations you’re showing are false, I honestly don’t have enough information to confirm or deny it, but in times of war information is a powerful tool and media from both sides won’t doubt to distort information to benefit their own countries.

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              2 months ago

              They literally cite their sources. They always cite their sources. Just dismissing it as “Wikipedia is written by Westerners” pretends that isn’t true. And I know you’re not that stupid.

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                Could you please do me the favour and read my writeup before responding like that? I addressed what you’re saying.

                Wikipedia itself has an article on its own bias, and an article on which sources the wiki editors consider reliable. Feel free to read my writeup for extended info on that.

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                  2 months ago

                  Is your writeup about that specific article? Because if not, it’s irrelevant. You can judge whether the source is reliable by going there, which you are apparently unwilling to do because you’ve already decided it’s too biased.

                  Also, there are Wikipedia editors from all over the world. I think you know that too.

                  Seems like your real problem is they’re being big meanies to Russia which only has the best intentions for Ukrainians and would never commit any war crimes.

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                    2 months ago

                    Is your writeup about that specific article? Because if not, it’s irrelevant.

                    You can just say you don’t care to read about the intrinsic biases in wikipedia in specific topics and that you’ll keep uncritically using it.

                    Also, there are Wikipedia editors from all over the world

                    Wikipedia ITSELF acknowledges that the vast majority of articles, especially those written in “western” languages, are edited primarily by western men. I’m not making shit up, Wikipedia literally talks about it in a meta-article about bias in wikipedia.

                    Seems like your real problem is they’re being big meanies to Russia which only has the best intentions for Ukrainians and would never commit any war crimes.

                    Russia is a capitalist regime on a downwards spiral to fascism, and it’s perfectly capable of committing war crimes, it’s currently ongoing in increasing oppression of its own women and LGTBQ. That doesn’t mean we should take Wikipedia’s word during war time for granted. Go through the sources of the article and tell me how many non-western or non-Ukrainian ones are used. I’ve seen an article from the Russian oppositional media “Meduza” but I unfortunately can’t read Russian so I can’t really tell what it says. Plenty of other reference from outright US/Ukraine propaganda outlets such as the “conflict observatory”, a US “NGO” receiving money from the NED; or such as Ukrainian media, which obviously have a stake in this topic.

                    Please, give my writeup a chance, and if you have anything to comment on it, feel free to let me know

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          2 months ago

          I voted for Kamala to prevent my own gay daughter from being part of Trump’s genocide. Sorry, I care about my daughter more than anyone else in this world and I am going to do what is best for her. Which is why we fled the U.S. when Trump won.

          But let me guess- I should care about people other than my daughter first. And also, queer people aren’t in any danger under Trump.

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            2 months ago

            Honestly, props to you for fleeing the US while you could, the genocidal empire is on a spiral to fascism. May I ask where you’ve decided to move?

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                Welp, here’s hoping that western Europe doesn’t end up going in the same direction. I’m western European myself and I’m fucking afraid of the fascist spiral we’re seeing here too.