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    Most wars are fascist infighting

    Let’s not give the West such an easy pass and ignore centuries of ongoing imperialism. The US using the Ukraine as a proxy for an attempted Afghan Trap does not make the people fighting it an equivalent malevolence. Supporting fascists is a routine Western MO.

    THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves. - Mark Twain

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        Yes imperialism also bad

        It would be worthwhile looking up:

        • Western financing and arming of fascists,
        • the Odessa Massacres,
        • the renaming of streets to Nazi collaborators and their celebration as heroes,
        • the brutal torture and murder of eastern Ukrainians since the installation of the Western approved Ukrainian government after the previous one underwent a coup following refusal of IMF loans,
        • the brutal subjugation and torture of minorities since the Western approved ukrainian governments
        • the two Minsk agreements aknowledging all of the above that the EU failed to uphold to stop supporting the Nazis,
        • the 8 years the Eastern Ukrainians requested Russian intervention before they did 2 years ago
        • ukrainian refugees complaining that they are housed next to brown folks if they get the chance to settle in western europe (like what kind of person does that after escaping war)

        These are often standard operating procedures against most of the Global South (except for the last point) the only difference here is it is happening to white folks.

        https://migration.bristol.ac.uk/2024/12/16/ukrainian-refugees-the-new-white-other-in-british-discourses/

        https://www.channel4.com/news/how-ukrainian-refugees-are-handling-cultural-integration-in-ethnically-diverse-areas-of-the-uk

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          uh-uh and it’ll take even more time to look up all the other stuff. it truly is one of times

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              The thing is that I’m already. Comments aren’t really suitable for unsolicited random instructions

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                The thing is that I’m already. Comments aren’t really suitable for unsolicited random instructions

                It’s rude to tell a bigot that they have an oppurtunity to educate themselves. As a westerner it should be their privilege to not be affected by that racism and to be called out on it the most heinous sin.

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                  You can go educate bigots, sinners, westerners or whoever want it, I’m not stopping you or assigned rudeness to such. Education is one of the rare important tasks!

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                    You are not brainwashed. You are not stupid. You, as a westerner, have a relationship with the global south which affords you to filter the narratives you choose to believe in.

                    I am asking you sincerely to engage in class betrayal on the global stage.

                    If there’s a slight chance you come out of this as a better human being then I’ll take that gamble.

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            uh-uh and it’ll take even more time to look up all the other stuff. it truly is one of times

            Best not to bother then.

            For the average Westerner the ideal anti-imperialist is the one that doesn’t fight back. Those ivory towers are built on the bones and blood of the Global South.

            If all the above is too much for you then I would recommend Against Empire by Michael Parenti. It will quickly cure any both-sideism.

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              Idk why MLs even bother trying to convince Western chauvanists. Let the contradictions of their societies turn them to socialism, and if not, leave them to their fate. Why are third worlders expected to convince the West that the way forward is socialism?

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              oh no you must’ve mistaken. it’s anyone’s (you, the audience) own choosing if they take their time and on what and I’m not even here, not needing to go back to a journey already passed