• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    3 months ago

    You no longer have to vote for the majors at all. We can now withhold votes completely.

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      3 months ago

      That’s a wasted vote, and not an option in the federal elections. It’s just as important to keep the extreme right-wing Liberal and National parties from power, as it is to preference the better minor parties (make sure to investigate as some minors and independents are extreme right-wing nutbags).

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            3 months ago

            We’ve had zero left wing, so wouldn’t have a fucking clue what you’re on about mate.

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                  3 months ago

                  They’re centre-left at best, and are shifting more left wing as we go with their stance on immigration and social activism.

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                3 months ago

                No. They are center. They were way ahead of the coalition on market friendly economic reforms, floating the dollar, abandoning many tarriffs, reducing subsidies, privatizing the comm bank etc. It wasn’t until Howard that the coalition started to catch up and Labor still take a very responsible and balanced approach to economic management.

                To be fair radical left wing politics has not been competitive in the world and wouldn’t be competitive politically here. They can’t maintain the economic productivity needed to deliver wealth and quality of life improvements demanded by working people so they always end up in autocracy or revolution. That is why social democracy thrived and why China has a successful mixed system. The problem is maintaining the balance between social policy and capitalist wealth creation. The social policy side is constantly undermined by the ultra rich, lobby groups and the flip flop election cycle and people start to take things like minimum wages, public healthcare and education for granted.

                Now, if your conceptualization of right vs left isn’t the traditional capital vs labour but the weird US culture war bullshit then the ALP are pretty much dead center as well (their right faction strongly overlaps with the coalition). It is a fairly laid back and generous country for the most part and most regular people don’t want to be like the yanks and be polarised into us vs them hate politics.

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                  3 months ago

                  What we call left and right wing are centre-left and centre-right. Neither extreme works, and neither party are extreme. Some, mainly the centre-left, are starting to dabble with extreme opinions - “gender identity” and mass immigration for example - but neither are full “left wing” or “right wing”.

                  It’s not just my “conceptualization”, it’s the public perception.