I mean, how many companies are maintaining their DEI programs these days?
I’m not gonna say Chick-fil-A are perfect angels, but the article is about a guy who is upset because one of the locations in Utah celebrated a gay marriage and corporate backed them up. That’s a very different Chick-fil-A than in 2012.
Is it possible for Chic-fil-a to ever redeem itself in your eyes?
If they fired everyone involved with every controversy and started donating every cent of profit to LGBT charity groups, would you say they were a good company, or is it once tainted always tainted.
Chic-fil-a has made a lot of changes in the past decade and a half, and I’m of the opinion that, if no amount of self reflection and change can ever make us reconsider our condemnation, then there’s no reason for anything to try and change, as it won’t stop the hate.
Not that Chic-fil-a is perfect, but I would argue they are now as good or better than any other fast food chain we’re not actively hating on. They actually pay their employees more than minimum wage and give them one guaranteed weekend day off if nothing else.
So why continue to put them down now that it’s “mission accomplished?” If the goal was for them to change, and they have, it seems that we should bring them back into the fold, no?
For me it would either take a reversal of all the bullshit deregulation of campaign finance laws, or for all the bigots in the Cathy family to be ousted entirely.
if no amount of self reflection and change can ever make us reconsider our condemnation, then there’s no reason for anything to try and change, as it won’t stop the hate
A very important point that we should all remember. It’s critical to continue a no-tolerance policy of intolerance, but to accept those who want to change.
I’m not running to Chick-fil-A anytime soon but the point remains.
the bar for capitalists pigs is incredibly low…but to give credit where it’s do, they atleast pay a halfway decent wage, take basic measures to keep employees safe/healthy (shade/hested spaces in winter, for drive through people), are relatively good in insuring QC in their supply chain, and actually have a pretty generous franchise setup.
admittedly these are things that the overwhelming majority of the West just…insures via basic government regulation, but they sure could be a hell of a lot worse.
alls i’m saying is when/if the Revolution happens, their CEO isnt even in the top 50-100 people that need to get got.
Important note: This doesn’t suddenly mean that Chick-Fil-A and the people who own it are suddenly good guys now.
I mean, how many companies are maintaining their DEI programs these days?
I’m not gonna say Chick-fil-A are perfect angels, but the article is about a guy who is upset because one of the locations in Utah celebrated a gay marriage and corporate backed them up. That’s a very different Chick-fil-A than in 2012.
That happened?! I’m frankly stunned.
Nothing happened. It is merely the current “Outrage of the Week”.
Uh, the article is literally about it happening.
Yeah, and what is happening is “outrage”
Yes, outrage that a historically anti-lgbt company showed support for the LGBT community. It’s more than just ‘some dude is angry’
Is it possible for Chic-fil-a to ever redeem itself in your eyes?
If they fired everyone involved with every controversy and started donating every cent of profit to LGBT charity groups, would you say they were a good company, or is it once tainted always tainted.
Chic-fil-a has made a lot of changes in the past decade and a half, and I’m of the opinion that, if no amount of self reflection and change can ever make us reconsider our condemnation, then there’s no reason for anything to try and change, as it won’t stop the hate.
Not that Chic-fil-a is perfect, but I would argue they are now as good or better than any other fast food chain we’re not actively hating on. They actually pay their employees more than minimum wage and give them one guaranteed weekend day off if nothing else.
So why continue to put them down now that it’s “mission accomplished?” If the goal was for them to change, and they have, it seems that we should bring them back into the fold, no?
For me it would either take a reversal of all the bullshit deregulation of campaign finance laws, or for all the bigots in the Cathy family to be ousted entirely.
I honestly haven’t been following them.
Did they ever admit fault? That’s big for me. An explicit “we were wrong”
That’s the big thing for me. To be forgiven, you must first apologize. Then you must make amends.
And yes, for some harms, there are no amends great enough.
I think redemption is possible, but I’m skeptical. Will definitely look into this more.
A very important point that we should all remember. It’s critical to continue a no-tolerance policy of intolerance, but to accept those who want to change.
I’m not running to Chick-fil-A anytime soon but the point remains.
the bar for capitalists pigs is incredibly low…but to give credit where it’s do, they atleast pay a halfway decent wage, take basic measures to keep employees safe/healthy (shade/hested spaces in winter, for drive through people), are relatively good in insuring QC in their supply chain, and actually have a pretty generous franchise setup.
admittedly these are things that the overwhelming majority of the West just…insures via basic government regulation, but they sure could be a hell of a lot worse.
alls i’m saying is when/if the Revolution happens, their CEO isnt even in the top 50-100 people that need to get got.
Sometimes a jackal will eat another jackal. Do not pet any jackals.
But jackals are cute. 😭
This is true. They are not “the face of the resistance”, or whatever Bluesky dems are saying nowadays.
The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more, no less.