JD Vance on Thursday accused Denmark — a fellow NATO member — and the rest of Europe of failing to protect Greenland from the intentions of Russia and China.

“I guess my advice to European leaders and anybody else would be to take the president of the United States seriously,” Vance told journalists at the White House when asked about Greenland.

After the US military successfully captured Venezuela’s leader Nicolas Maduro last weekend, Donald Trump renewed his push to acquire Greenland, with the use of military force not out of the question.

Vance especially urged Europe to respond to Trump’s insistence that the United States needs the island for “missile defense.”

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    Danish troops are instructed to fire on invading US forces without asking for orders first.

    Somehow, I think they’re taking him seriously.

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      Literally the reason they got Maduro is no one thought they’d be stupid enough to try this.

      Because the fact is, military crossing borders accidentally is pretty common, now when US troops do it, they’re getting capped because they’re a credible threat, even if an ally.

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        The only reason they got Maduro is that the Venezuelan army is riddled with traitors and Maduro’s nr3 deserted few years ago and is now in the US betraying his country for money and using his pull to give the US contacts. Worse, they murdered 80 people in cold blood, of which civilians. The whole operation is anything but impressive.

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        military crossing borders accidentally is pretty common

        “Accidentally,” yes. Actually accidentally, very rare. One thing the military knows very well is where their assets are.

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      Why wouldn’t they shoot first? the US publicly announced that when they are there they will be there as an invader not an ally, more important is the question how will the EU react when they attack, will they help or say we have to strengthen our own borders, Germany won’t do shit anyway, they’ve been America’s bitch for the past 80+ years, Hungary is leaning towards Putin, Poland is busy worrying about Putin invading them after Ukraine, the French are busy with internal turmoil and the small Balkan countries can’t come together for anything else except drinking, i know i’m from one of them, so who you gonna call?

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      If they were they would expel every US appointment immediately and prepare for invasion. I dont see that happening.

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        And preemptively break their NATO treaty obligations? The Danes aren’t shady backstabbers like us Americans, they’re going to let us break the treaty first.

        You know, basically act like our allies. Which they are, until we break the relationship.

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          You go ahead and turn the other cheek so trump can black both your eyes amd take your land while hes at it. Backstabbing would be doing it for no reason. You have been threatened. This is self defence. Which unsuprisingly is not something europeans are very good at. As shown by your strongly worded letter in the face of multiple terrorist nations targetting you, and unwillingness to do amything against russia. Hell homny years did it take you all to stop buying thier gas after they attacked ukraine. Im sure another strongly worded letter will definately stop the us from invading your country or kidnapping your leaders. The us is ally to NO ONE anymore. Get that through your thick frozen skulls

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            …so you don’t understand treaties, or international relations, or anything like that?

            You don’t see why Denmark preemptively violating the NATO charter weakens their position on the international stage considerably?

            Also, I’m in the US. Like I indicated in the previous comment.

            You absolute idiot.

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                That article doesn’t give a single reason why it would be advantageous for Denmark to preemptively break the treaty.

                You realize that treaties have legal repercussions built into them if they’re broken, right? And that Denmark is waiting for us to incur those repercussions (like sanctions), rather than them?

                If they’re potentially fighting an invasion, why would they want to trigger additional hardships for themselves by breaking the treaty?

                You really haven’t thought about any of this, holy shit.

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                  You’re confidently missing the point.

                  No one is saying Denmark should “break the treaty for fun.” The argument is about strategic preemption, not vibes. Treaties aren’t magic shields, they’re conditional frameworks that already collapse the moment an invasion happens. Yes, treaties have repercussions. That’s exactly why the discussion exists. Sanctions vs. occupation is not a hard comparison. One hurts your economy; the other erases your sovereignty. Pretending those are equivalent outcomes is absurd. And “waiting for us to incur repercussions” only makes sense if waiting actually improves Denmark’s position. If an invasion is imminent, waiting doesn’t preserve legality, it just burns time and leverage.

                  Also, international law explicitly allows anticipatory self-defense under imminent threat. This isn’t some Reddit-brained loophole; it’s been debated for decades. You acting like no one’s considered that doesn’t make it true.

                  So yeah — people have thought about this. You just seem locked into a cartoon version of how treaties and warfare actually work.

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                    Please explain how this meets the “last window of opportunity” restriction on anticipatory self-defense.