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So if someone wanted to GTFO and avoid living in the Nazi state but also not be invaded by the US or be in one of its Allie countries that will follow the same path inevitably. Where would you go?
China, would probably be the least likely to get fucked unless the US goes full nuclear (and really nowhere is safe). But I don’t think that’s so easy.
Vietnam, maybe?
I can’t see Europe doing well as NATO is dismantled.
Like, our world is literally getting fucked. If it was just me. I’d stay in the US and accept my fate and resist. But, I got a two year old kid that is only 50% of the race that our fascist leaders approve of.
History will write of the Gaza genocide is the catalyst and testing ground for the start of WW3. But we are here now. And I just want my kid to see 30.
No experience with kids in Vietnam, but the country is really nice. Not too sure about the safety nets in case you lose a job, especially since it would also mean you lose your residence permit…
As for europe, I think it will do reasonably fine for the next ~30 years, the decline of capitalism will be slower than in the US because it has at least some regulation in place to slow down the wealth inequality explosion. The quality of life is better than Vietnam, especially outside big cities. Practically speaking, I’d trust the safety net more too, at least for the near future. Racism depends on the country, I think your kid would do fine in most. The main drawbacks are of course that the safety net and quality of life is funded by imperialism (some from gnarly neo-colonial imperialism, looking at you France, others just economic exploitation of the global south), and that the capitalist system will decay there eventually too.
Vietnam really is nice (i lived there for a while), but one has to keep in mind: The living standard (away from the big cities) is still not compareable to western standards and - a thing that i find really funny in a way - i would never have thought that a communist country may be THAT anarcho capitalist.
I am now married to a Vietnamese woman for a bit over ten years and we have a kid, but i can only speak from my personal experience - as always, people are individuals and regional experiences may be utterly different.
As far as i can say: As long as you respect the culture, try to blend in and be friendly you will never find a more welcoming people, multi racial kids (we are talking European / Vietnamese here, ok?) are absolutely no problem. But i have to say: In Vietnam you also find the (i am speaking in general terms here) typical asian dislike for darker skin. You are absolutely fine as long as your skin tone matches roughly the one of the local population or is lighter. As a darker skinned person your experience may be completely different.
Thanks for the response. I guess I’m more familiar with Korea and Japan. Japan being the worst the this regard. Definitely know the “dark skin” racism being strong in both Korea and Japan. But Japan takes it a step further and basically just only accept Japanese and others will always be outcasts.
I don’t know. I guess it’s depressing. I moved from the southern US to the west coast and just felt like it was a great place with a lot of diversity that my kid could grow up.
I just don’t want my kid to be looked at as “well, you’re obviously different” when going to school. Here, it’s not an issue at all. She’d be among many others.
It’s really not something you get at this degree in anywhere else in the world. And, well, I guess it’s the reason we are seeing this type of white supremacy and racism take power. It’s a reactionary action.
Maybe New Zealand? Far enough away from anything interesting and their main exports are dairy products. English as one of the official languages. Only time will tell which way the politics will go.
Europe also has nuclear weapons so it will not be invaded, even when US exists NATO. Some new alliance will be formed. Worst case scenario for Europe is that more countries will exit EU and turn into right wing dictatorships like Hungary. Most of the countries in EU are healthy democracies with strong, independent judiciaries so this will not happen that fast. Right now I would bet that it will be dismantled eventually but it will take another decade or two. Exact same thing can happen everywhere but even faster. Europe is still your best bet.
So if someone wanted to GTFO and avoid living in the Nazi state but also not be invaded by the US or be in one of its Allie countries that will follow the same path inevitably. Where would you go?
China, would probably be the least likely to get fucked unless the US goes full nuclear (and really nowhere is safe). But I don’t think that’s so easy.
Vietnam, maybe?
I can’t see Europe doing well as NATO is dismantled.
Like, our world is literally getting fucked. If it was just me. I’d stay in the US and accept my fate and resist. But, I got a two year old kid that is only 50% of the race that our fascist leaders approve of.
History will write of the Gaza genocide is the catalyst and testing ground for the start of WW3. But we are here now. And I just want my kid to see 30.
No experience with kids in Vietnam, but the country is really nice. Not too sure about the safety nets in case you lose a job, especially since it would also mean you lose your residence permit…
As for europe, I think it will do reasonably fine for the next ~30 years, the decline of capitalism will be slower than in the US because it has at least some regulation in place to slow down the wealth inequality explosion. The quality of life is better than Vietnam, especially outside big cities. Practically speaking, I’d trust the safety net more too, at least for the near future. Racism depends on the country, I think your kid would do fine in most. The main drawbacks are of course that the safety net and quality of life is funded by imperialism (some from gnarly neo-colonial imperialism, looking at you France, others just economic exploitation of the global south), and that the capitalist system will decay there eventually too.
Vietnam really is nice (i lived there for a while), but one has to keep in mind: The living standard (away from the big cities) is still not compareable to western standards and - a thing that i find really funny in a way - i would never have thought that a communist country may be THAT anarcho capitalist.
But overall: I really love that country.
How is the culture towards foreigners? Especially obviously multi racial kids growing up?
You may have no idea. But figured I’d ask.
I am now married to a Vietnamese woman for a bit over ten years and we have a kid, but i can only speak from my personal experience - as always, people are individuals and regional experiences may be utterly different.
As far as i can say: As long as you respect the culture, try to blend in and be friendly you will never find a more welcoming people, multi racial kids (we are talking European / Vietnamese here, ok?) are absolutely no problem. But i have to say: In Vietnam you also find the (i am speaking in general terms here) typical asian dislike for darker skin. You are absolutely fine as long as your skin tone matches roughly the one of the local population or is lighter. As a darker skinned person your experience may be completely different.
Thanks for the response. I guess I’m more familiar with Korea and Japan. Japan being the worst the this regard. Definitely know the “dark skin” racism being strong in both Korea and Japan. But Japan takes it a step further and basically just only accept Japanese and others will always be outcasts.
I don’t know. I guess it’s depressing. I moved from the southern US to the west coast and just felt like it was a great place with a lot of diversity that my kid could grow up.
I just don’t want my kid to be looked at as “well, you’re obviously different” when going to school. Here, it’s not an issue at all. She’d be among many others.
It’s really not something you get at this degree in anywhere else in the world. And, well, I guess it’s the reason we are seeing this type of white supremacy and racism take power. It’s a reactionary action.
Maybe New Zealand? Far enough away from anything interesting and their main exports are dairy products. English as one of the official languages. Only time will tell which way the politics will go.
As far as I’m aware New Zealand stopped immigration in 2024. So that might not be an option.
Europe also has nuclear weapons so it will not be invaded, even when US exists NATO. Some new alliance will be formed. Worst case scenario for Europe is that more countries will exit EU and turn into right wing dictatorships like Hungary. Most of the countries in EU are healthy democracies with strong, independent judiciaries so this will not happen that fast. Right now I would bet that it will be dismantled eventually but it will take another decade or two. Exact same thing can happen everywhere but even faster. Europe is still your best bet.