What are some of your guys’ biggest red flags when it comes to talking to people about politics? (they don’t really know what they’re talking about) Personally one of mine is when people call the USSR Russia

  • ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    30·
    2 days ago

    Racism.

    I was on a date with a lady from Hong Kong recently and she started complaining about how there was Muslims on the subway here.

    I was like, what do you mean?

    ‘Oh I was so scared!’

    Like they wherent doing anything she just associated them with terrorism and crime.

    Yeah they arent getting a 2nd date lol.

    • darkernations@lemmygrad.ml
      23·
      2 days ago

      The anti-decolonial tendancies from certain Hong Kongers is not much more than this:

      • England no longer wanted to trade ill-gotten silver from the Americas for Chinese wares so they brutally forced Indians to farm opium, and when the Chinese did not want to trade with opium the English bombed their coastline to submission, and the English as further prize for winning that war resulted in the annexation of Hong Kong and the creation of HSBC bank to launder that drug money.
      • The crumbs of that wealth was used to develop Hong Kong, and instead of having solidarity with mainland chinese, indians and global south who effectively subdised their quality of living they instead see solidarity with brutal fascists of empire. There is not much saving these particles of Hitler.

      Needless to say this may not go down well but it may be satisfying.

      • ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        17·
        2 days ago

        Absolutely spot on.

        I lived in HK for 6 months so im familiar with the type.

        People native to hk tend to either be like cool with communism and pro China and also not a reactoid, or this kind of lady which is basically someone who was cool with the apartheid and segregation and is vocally super racist against anyone who isn’t white.

        • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
          22·
          2 days ago

          which is basically someone who was cool with the apartheid and segregation and is vocally super racist against anyone who isn’t white

          Lot of people don’t know this about Hong Kong, that it used to have basically an apartheid system under which British colonizers were subject to completely different laws than the Chinese population, and even had their own exclusive parts of the city where no Chinese were allowed to live.

          Also the biggest irony of the so-called “pro-democracy” demonstrators in Hong Kong who were waving all those British flags is that there was no democracy under British rule. The British just appointed the colonial governor who ruled with an iron fist. There is more democracy now in HK than there was for 99% of the colonial era.

          When there were anti-British protests in the 1960s in HK, the British colonial authorities just gunned down dozens of people. Compare that to the much more violent and much more extensive HK riots a few years ago when the police didn’t kill a single person.

          I know they are a small minority but how any ethnically Chinese Hong Kongers can still be simping for the colonial era is something I will never understand.

          • ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
            15·
            2 days ago

            Yeah when she was done moaning about being in the same subway carriage as someone she perceived to be Muslim (like lets be honest, they where just clearly SE asian im not sure how she could tell) she immediately started talking about how much she hated ‘mainlanders’ lol.

            I did manage to get in some bits about how I really liked Mao and Deng though and how nicer Shenzhen is relative to HK lol…

        • Munrock ☭@lemmygrad.ml
          1·
          2 days ago

          The amazing part, to me, is that these two halves manage to get along just fine in everyday life and work. There’s obvious tension when the topics come up, but until you float that tension you can’t really tell one from the other (unless they own an EV, in which case it’s Tesla vs all the mainland brands and that indicator hasn’t failed me yet).