• ceenote@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    Change my mind: Literally zero people want Greenland to be part of the US except Donald Trump and the people who have trained themselves to always agree with Donald Trump.

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      19 hours ago

      They don’t even have a fucking reason. Oh, it is an important strategic location? Good thing we already have a base there!

      • voodooattack@lemmy.world
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        8 hours ago
        • Venezuela: oil, because renewables are becoming more expensive due to all of the raw materials going into AI-related tech and the US needs a backup plan if shit hits the fan and their bets don’t pan out
        • Greenland: rare Earth metals, because they are the strategic bottleneck amongst said materials, and China stopped exploring them recently and I guess Australia and Canada are harder targets?
        • Can you guess why China is circling Taiwan so hard nowadays? Because they want TMSC in order to overcome their current chip production limits (nm/transistor count)
        • But why is that important? Because of Moore’s Law. We’ve hit the practical physical limits of transistor size vs molecular complexity with current manufacturing methods. We (humanity) are stagnating now, and can’t climb up The Kardashev scale no more.
        • But we can’t stop because our resources and time are limited. Our planet is on a clock right now. So their apparent solution is: secure/stockpile rare Earth metals, sufficient energy reserves, and production means to train AGI, because apparently someone at some point put the idea that AGI would be the solution to the manufacturing problem.
        • But this is all being exasperated by AI training since the start: resources invested, materials wasted, energy spent, planet heated/polluted. Now it’s a recursive problem and a self-fulfilling prophecy
        • And everyone is betting they can solve it first, the will be the ones that’ll win the AGI race, and save us because they’re the good guys and know what they’re doing. Our wise leaders will sacrifice anything to save their citizens, even their own public image (see how noble Trump/Putin/whatever are being?) to save the planet. The end will justify the means surely, and people will forgive them once they realise what was going on all this time. Poor them.
        • Nobody is even stopping to ask: “but what if we (countries) worked together instead of against each other?” because of people like Trump being in power.

        There you go. My current working theory.

        P.S: wonder where the existing rare Earth metals went? Ask the planned obsolescence/anti-repair people and the Phoebus Cartel.

    • frongt@lemmy.zip
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      24 hours ago

      The people who have trained Donald Trump to agree with them. They want oil, minerals, land, etc.

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        8 hours ago

        Are we already forgetting that trump invaded Venezuela for oil, then the oil companies said “excuse me but we can’t profitably exploit their notoriously shitty oil”?

        Part of being a literal Nazi is that the o.g. Nazis got themselves stuck in an increasing number of military quagmires not because they had to but because they refused to do consider the obvious peaceful solutions for their problems. The war machine had to be fed even at the cost of their own self-destruction.

        Except this time they have a nuclear arsenal capable of wiping all civilization and somehow people aren’t freaking out nearly enough about that.

    • I_Jedi@lemmy.today
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      24 hours ago

      I believe the accelerationists want Greenland to join the US. Those guys are eager to see a nuclear war kick off.

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      22 hours ago

      Greenland is the suicide capital of the world.

      I’m pretty sure a lot of people are instinctively against US acquisition because they’ve been trained to think colonialism is always bad and what Trump does is always wrong.

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        List some instances where colonialism was good

        Or trump did something that was good

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        20 hours ago

        Looking at history, colonialism has always been bad for the indigenous people.

        Similary looking at history, what Trump does has always been wrong.

        Also fuck you, if you think you know better whats good for Greenland than people who live in there.

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        they’ve been trained to think colonialism is always bad

        There isn’t a single colonial project that was/is benevolent. So yes, colonialism is always bad. Also fuck off with the “acquisition” euphemism. What the USA is proposing is simply stealing somebody else’s land.

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        21 hours ago

        Greenland is the suicide capital of the world

        You wanna pump those numbers up by subjecting them to US health care?

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        Are you actually arguing that the US should take Greenland? What in the actual fuck?

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        21 hours ago

        Trump may not always be wrong but it’s certainly in the high majority of things he does. Currently I can’t think of anything he has done that is actually positive.