@geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml banned me from !ManufacturingConsent@lemmy.ml (permanently!) and removed my comment from the post, because I dared to note that there are protests in Iran and shared a link to a crimethinc article with voices from within Iran. They call it “imperialist propaganda” if leftist voices from within Iran are distributed.
My comment:
I get it that the western media narrative is incredibly one-sided, focused on ideological bogeymen and focused on getting the monarch back in power. But I’d like to point out that there is in fact quite massive repression going on against the protestors. Leftist orgs in Iran need international solidarity now.
Their “reasoning”:
reason: Ignoring the post to spam imperialist propaganda
I don’t think that person can be reasoned with if they call crimethinc imperialist propaganda, so I’m not getting my hopes up for them lifting the ban.
I also think that they might be a bit butthurt, because I called out their zionistic worldview (i.e.: that judaism equates zionism) a few days ago.
You’d lose that bet. as I said: that’s a bunch of assumptions you just *make about strangers on the internet.
Because there are protests in Iran right now. Read the fucking article, if you want to know “why now”. It wasn’t because I thought "hmm, the US could use another invasion right now.
Yeah, it’s definetly not because of the protests in Iran. Those are completely not happening. /s
You linked a wikipedia article, did you write it yourself?
And why exactly are those protests happening now, I wonder? Maybe because the US+EU imposed a sanction regime on Iran that has destroyed the national currency’s exchange value and massively impoverished the vast majority of the population? I’m sure that’s also coincidental and has nothing to do with attempts at regime change in the country. It’s not like the US has ever explicitly said that it applies economic sanctions to create hunger, desperation and overthrow of governments. Oh, wait…
You said that now is the first time I’d be interested in iranian protests. The article describes a time when I showed solidarity for iranian protest movements before.
Yes. The article mentions (and condemns) this, as well. Read the fucking article, you troll.
I talked about your social media activity, not about you thinking something to yourself.
That’s irrelevant to my point. “Nuanced criticism” of the Iranian government the week before it’s invaded is bad strategy for socialists in the west, there’s already plenty of criticism in all media due to the anti-Iranian government atrocity propaganda. The entire thing circles down to you having good intentions by posting about progressives in Iran being repressed, but doing so during a period of extreme duress in the country which has been caused by the US+EU governments sanctions, and at a time when the country is about to be invaded by the US.
Your intentions are noble and commendable, and I respect them, but you’re unintentionally carrying water for the US invasion by replicating atrocity propaganda at this particular moment.
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I’m trying to be polite here and have a conversation, why are you unwilling to listen and instead engage in such behavior?
No, you’re not. You’re needlessly contrarian and an annoying campist.
Well, I’m sorry you can’t be bothered to have a conversation, I don’t think I’ve been disrespectful to you.
You’ve inserted yourself into a discussion that’s 2.5 weeks old to tell meh that I’m “spreading imperialist propaganda” when I was complaining about an unjust and arbitrary ban for sharing an article with a leftist analysis about the protests in Iran, which you refuse to read.
Then, you’re needlessly contrarian, making bold claims that I’ve never before supported Iranian protests and implicitly demanding useless proof.
Read the fucking article, before you make claims about it, you fucking campist troll.