Emmanuel Macron has hit back at Donald Trump’s latest threats to impose tariffs on any country opposing his Greenland takeover, warning that “no amount of intimidation” will persuade European nations to change their course on Greenland.
He was echoed by the Swedish prime minister, Ulf Kristersson, who warned the EU would not be “blackmailed” by the US president, who on Saturday announced 10% tariffs on eight European countries from 1 February, with a further 25% tariff from 1 June.
In a joint statement, EU leaders said “tariffs would undermine transatlantic relations and risk a dangerous downward spiral”.
It is highly likely that the European parliament will halt ratification of last summer’s trade deal with the US after Manfred Weber, the head of the European People’s party, the largest voting bloc in the institute, said they would have to pause the legal rubber stamping process.
Kick all US personnel out of Greenland.
They should be on the phone with congress. Just do an end around Trump.
I think the orange turd bluffed himself into a corner.
First he threatened to take Greenland by force if necessary. Europe didn’t back down and responded by sending troops to Greenland to prepare for possible conflict.
The pedo realised this bluff didn’t work. So now he’s threatening with tariffs again.
Military conflict would have had much worse consequences for both sides than the tariffs. So why would anyone back down for 10% tariffs?
And if anyone learned anything about tariffs in the FSA (Fascist States of America) from 2025 is that they hurt American people just as much, if not more.
Americans don’t want Greenland and they don’t want higher prices.
Let’s see how smart the orange turd is.
Let’s keep all the champagne in EU
Well…umm…we’ll retaliate by making it so champagne not produced in the Champagne region of France can still be labeled as “champagne!” T_T
And the USA gets real pain.
Why doesn’t Europe do psyops on Americans like Russia? Christ, as we’ve seen America is very easily manipulated.
Why doesn’t Europe do psyops on Americans like Russia?
What makes you think they don’t?
If they are it’s not working
Europe doesn’t have a unified intelligence services or anything similar, yet.
They’re planning to establish a joint cyber operations unit to retaliate against Russia.
Once the unit is established, they could and should use it against rogue fascist countries like the FSA (Fascist States of America)
This isn’t something to celebrate, and will only accelerate Europe’s slide into fascism.
Europe is already complicit with many of America’s worst criminal wars and genocides, and giving the governments more “intelligence” power will be used to secure their interests, not yours. More surveillance will never make you more free and secure.
The right has so many they would try to stop you, minimize you. Publicize it and make a big fuss.
You should though. But your own countries will fall under our leadership in the west, without a real popular reform you will fall as well to fake popular reform of a far right backed by the us, russia, billionaires.
The best kind of psyops is the kind nobody thinks is even happening. Trying to be subtle in today’s brash politics may not be the best plan though I guess, it takes too long.
We go straight at it. A thing i personally despise very much is this all secret behind the back stuff with misinformation and whatnot.
Personally i think we would do our enemies a favor if we punch their teeth in since the brain gets more oxygen that way and they may come to their senses.
Cringe keyboardwarrior i know but thats my opinion.
Coming from a country where im not even sure we have a secret service.(maybe its just that good 🧐)
If you’re not gonna do psyops, you have to do an even better counter-psyops. Otherwise you will be fucked in the ass without realising it, until you’re bleeding to death and it’s too late.
Just look at how beautifully Russian psyops worked on splitting up the Americunts and pitting them against each other.
Russian psyops have lesser effect in Europe because people in Europe are generally better educated and are also taught in schools about propaganda and fake news and how to recognise those.
what s psyops are we gonna do ? against the first or second amadement ?
Not my own but I liked how this seems to be the logic operating between Trump and his peers:
“Tax the americans, until the europeans comply.”
You do realize that tariffs do impact the nation being tariffed as well right? They don’t pay the tax directly, but it does make it harder to sell goods in your nation due to an inflated price.
Well that’s how they are usually used. Right now basically everyone is getting tariffed and they change by the hour. Why would I make a new deal with another country for a product that is likely inferior for my purposes to what I was using when that country’s tariff rate could go up tomorrow over some political nonsense? Or the country that exports rubs shoulders and all the sudden the rate falls.
Trade is complicated and deals take time. Stability is still most important.
I do understand that yes, but the tariff itself is placed on the consumer end.
Import tariffs raise the cost of imported goods. For many goods this reduces import volumes and lowers sales for exporters (the tariff’s intended effect). For goods without substitutes, imports continue, and firms often (depending on price elasticity, and competition) pass the higher input cost on to consumers as higher downstream prices rather than absorbing it.
It makes sense when you understand that this is class war. The working class is being choked in both the US and Europe all while fueling nationalism within each.
Seems to me you are making a major false equivalence there.
In what way is the working class being choked in EU?
Unlike USA EU countries have a right to unionize, we have actual democracies and EU also have livable minimum wages despite some EU countries being only a fourth as wealthy as USA.
Also nationalism in Europe is very different than in USA, as EU has 27 countries, it’s not like EU will suddenly become one maniac nationalist/fascist nation with a giant army that can oppress the entire EU population like can happen in USA.EU is not perfect, except when compared to USA or China, then it kind of is.
In what way is the working class being choked in EU?
The same neoliberals are in power in Europe, and the same redistribution of wealth from below to the top happens in Europe. All over Europe they tell us we have to work more, earn less, our social services are too expensive, and “what are you talking about, rich people should pay taxes, are you insane?”
If you truly believe the working class is not being choked in Europe you’ve got to open your eyes. They are just a bit more subtle about it over here.
they tell us
Is that what it boils down to? AFAIK you are free to vote for someone who doesn’t say that.
Yes there have been problems, first Covid, then Russia invading Ukraine disrupting oil and gas supplies plus demanding higher defense expenses, and then Trump winning the presidency on USA putting tariffs on EU.All these are outside factors that have had an impact, but apart from that the general trend in EU is absolutely to improve conditions for the population, which has far from been the case in USA.
Yes they warn that times are bit tighter now than they should have been, but that’s reality and not because we are being choked by our own.
I agree the rich need to be taxed more, and the distribution of wealth is unfair, but at least in EU we have a fighting chance, where in USA they have basically given up on fundamental rights like free healthcare and a living wage.
The worldwide class difference is a problem when the market is open to everyone, so investment grade assets like real estate are priced on a foreign billionaire level everywhere. Our local labour laws are pretty decent, and we have really good wage equality overall but the rest of you are dragging us down frankly. Since you mentioned them, China had the right idea to impose severe restrictions around that type of “investing” and we should probably follow their example to some degree. One way to fight absurd wealth accumulation is to make it impossible to buy anything with it.
but the rest of you are dragging us down
Where are you from? and who is “you”? If foreigners are buying your real estate nothing is simpler than not allowing foreigners to own real estate in your country. Failing to do that is not the fault of other countries.
China had the right idea to impose severe restrictions around that type of “investing”
China is not all bad, but it is a totalitarian regime, where people can be imprisoned just for expressing a political opinion.
That kind of oppression of the people and ideas makes China clearly worse than EU, where it is a protected right.The worst countries regarding making land unavailable to ordinary people are way poorer countries than USA and EU and are Asian countries, where land is part of a social construct, and your worth and ability for marriage is tied to how much land you own. Where not the foreigners but the local rich are pressuring out ordinary people.
I hear the working class in the EU is having troubles with inflation and housing.
Here in the UK it’s pretty fucked. I earn a fairly low wage, and I live in a van because housing is so expensive. I could just about afford to pay rent, but I couldn’t afford much else. The van thing isn’t ideal - I’m in my 50s, hot summers and cold winters are challenging - but this is the only way I can afford to be able to do stuff and even save a bit.
UK is not in EU.
UK has lost about 7.5-10% of their economic potential due to Brexit. Incidentally exactly as I warned would happen during the campaign for the Brexit election, where I warned the UK economy could decline up to 1% per year compared to remaining. Turns out I was pretty much spot on. My guess is this has hit the lower paid workers harder than average, because that is generally the nature of such things, unless there is political will to prevent it. But in situations with tighter economy, such political will almost always evaporates.
For UK workers overall this is a self inflicted wound. But of course if you voted remain, this was inflicted upon you by your countrymen. UK is in a special situation, and can not be used as an example for the rest of Europe.
Hopefully we will see this effect decrease, as UK forms new agreements with EU, and the economy settles on a natural level for the new conditions.Yeah, I voted remain and like you I could clearly see the harm that leaving the EU would cause, but I couldn’t get the leave voters in my life to listen - so fuckin frustrating! And yeah, it’s hit lower paid workers harder, and even those who’ve had pay rises have rarely had ‘rises’ that meet inflation.
For me there was also the added element that I very much appreciated freedom of movement. I’ve lived and worked and had relationships and made myself at home in several EU countries and I intended to do so again in the future. So few people seemed to value the incredible opportunity this was - fuck off abroad, get a job and a flat, learn the language, make a home. Now I can only spend I think 90 out of any 180 day period in an EU country because of all those dimwitted bigots who voted leave.
I don’t think I’ll ever stop feeling angry about this.
I don’t think I’ll ever stop feeling angry about this.
I 100% get that, it was a moronic decision IMO.
Inflation is an aftermath of Covid, Covid was a major economic challenge everywhere, this was made worse in EU and prolonged because Russia tried to strong-arm EU by closing off the gas. Which meant that EU was forced to source this energy from elsewhere, increasing prices on warming for houses for many people. But people are still paid livable wages in EU unlike in USA. There is always struggle for workers to get their fair share, difference is that in EU this struggle is on a much more even playing field than it is in USA, and AFAIK anywhere else in the world.
There is no class war in either USA or EU, there isn’t in USA because Americans aren’t fighting for their rights.
And there isn’t in EU because workers did fight for it, and we have won the necessary rights that prevent us from getting choked.
There is of course always debate on how the money of society as a whole should be shared. And in EU workers actually have significant political power in that debate, where in USA they don’t.So apart from a livable wage, we have for instance free healthcare and education, something many Americans dream of.
Romania is among the poorer EU countries, but they have the highest home ownership in EU.
So at least I think I can say with good certainty that we don’t have an EU wide housing crisis.
With major infra structure variables like housing there will always “trouble” show me a country that is completely without problems regarding housing.In EU the situation today is certainly way better than it was back in the 70’s in most countries, where in USA it’s the exact opposite.
I don’t think you understand what “class war” means. (1) One class can be fighting it while the other class is not. See Americans for an example.
(2) There is no “end” to class war when the working class “gets a living wage”. The capitalist class will always chip away at your wage and social programs. They are doing that now in Europe.
You don’t understand what I was even referring to when talking about class conflict. Here is a test: do you think “class” is dependent on how much money you make? If the answer is “yes, a Doctor is clearly of a different class than a janitor” then you have no idea what I’m talking about.
The way you talk about it makes me think you are just misunderstanding what I was talking about at a fundamental level.
I’m talking about class in the Marxist sense.
Oh yeah? But do you have the highest incarcerated levels? You probably don’t even have school shootings.
But I don’t think Trump has had much influence on that honestly. Housing is getting super expensive for years and the prices just never stopped rising and inflation is largely a result of Putin’s war in the Ukraine.
All political options are captured by the ruling class, every cycle we lose rights, quality of life, buying power.
Everyone knows they are being screwed. Parties tell us it’s going great. Far right is the only reform option. They will win without popular reform.
You can tell us we have never had it better, but we can all see that is not the case. Figures may not lie, but liars do figure.
Denying the plutocratic rot to force worthless sold out politicians is dooming the entire west, and you guys are as delusional as american voters if you do not see that by now.
Are you European?
Yes, I am European and a supporter of EU in for instance the way EU requires member states to observe human rights.
And also how EU protects democratic rights for all citizens of EU, which again is directly contrary to USA, that undermine democracy on the federal level.My friend, if you trust your neoliberal politicians to not bend the knee to Trump and their own capitalist class; you’ll soon be enjoying our lack of healthcare.
Please, this is not a “anti European” position. Don’t confuse it for such. This is an American warning you. Unless you personally are willing to go die for Greenland, don’t expect others to. If you are, more power to you, but you’d be sitting in an insignificant minority of Europeans.
Ah. “No True Scot”, or “Appeal to Authority” ? Which?
No. I was literally just wondering to get a context for your comment. But based on your comment I’m gonna assume you’re not.
I responded to another one of your comments so ending replies here. I realized from your other comment that you have no idea what I meant when I referred to “class”
It is interesting that the pedophile defender says only he can defend Greenland but he is a lame duck president and won’t be there in 3 years. Could easily be dead by then too.
If you think the fascist will roll over and allow a peaceful transfer of power in 3 years then you have not been paying attention.
Exactly, and it’s not just Trump, it’s the entire White house administration. J. D. Vance is just as bat shit crazy as Trump is, and Stephen Miller is even worse.
Even worse, they’re smarter than him.
Vance having his own thought, even a crazy one, would be giving way too much credit.
Far be it from me to defend a Trump in any way, but the American desire to control Greenland does pre-date his presidency by a good stretch and it will still be a fond wish of the Department of War after he is gone. Trump is in this one personally because he thinks it will be a jewel of his legacy to add territory to the country. And he is always up for confrontational harassment of Europe and brandishing his sword as CIC. But Greenland specifically was put on his agenda by others in security defense circles. There is a case for it, and that case isn’t old and tired, it’s getting stronger as ice melts.
There is a case for America to ally with Denmark and the EU, so that America can partner on resources to the benefit of all involved, and so America can support and maintain military presence for the mutual security of the North.
It’s the height of American arrogance, and indifference to global suffering, to even consider that there is a case where the US unilaterally occupies Greenland.
Dude, there is a case in American history for doing genocide of natives too. What is your “defense” of Trump here? Like, I don’t disagree with you that American Imperialism is not unique to Trump - but you seem to be saying this makes it justified? Maybe I’m reading your comment wrong though.
The best time to stand up to Trump was when he first started making threats to the EU. The second best time is now. It’s time to stand up and if Trump doesn’t TACO, we in the EU can start selling his treasuries and putting tarrifs on US cloud providers.
It helps that Donald Trump is not intimidating.
I don’t know… I find it quite intimidating that there’s a bunch of power in the hands of a psychopath with dementia and emotional self-regulation abilities worse than the average toddler.
There isn’t. He’s just the fall guy for the actually powerful people.
FACT: TACO
Do whatever you want, France. Trump will chicken out. Nothing else is as for sure other than that.
TACO is for things that could hurt the stock market or the the profits of capital. It literally comes from Wall Street traders.
TACO is not for Trump being reckless and cruel. He bombed Iran, he bombed fishing boats, he kidnapped a leader of a sovereign country, he has built concentration camps and is sending his SS troops door to door.
You best hope enough wealthy capitalist convince him not to invade Greenland. Because that’s the only reason he won’t. Don’t expect fascist to not take easy “wins” of cruelty to show power when they can.
Fascist only back down when their capitalist owners tell them to OR when there is a chance they could be resisted and seen as weak.
It started on Wall Street, but they simply picked up on the trend because it’s an industry of people looking at trends and patterns all day to place bets.
He chickens out on all sorts of policy things when he doesn’t delegate it to ghouls that feed on the cruelty. He keeps acting like he’s going to be tough on the EU, and then folds.
However, to your point, wealthy capitalists are the ones that convinced him to invade in the first place. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/15/ronald-lauder-billionaire-donor-donald-trump-ukraine-greenland https://www.forbes.com/sites/martinadilicosa/2026/01/09/these-billionaires-bet-big-on-greenland-after-trump-took-interest/
And IIRC one of those Peter Thiel Network State charter city crypto fiefdoms as well was sniffing around Greenland.
Wealthy capitalists are the ones who are convincing him to invade though.
I don’t know,
hethey seem to be more willing to escalate on treaty allies than anyone else.A bully always beats on his friends before ever considering a real challenger.
shouldn’t there be an easy fix to this madness? just give trump a bright shiny trophy and tell him he earned it all by himself, like a big boy
Bullets are shiny…
Ah, the Jozef Gabčík Solution.
I honestly don’t see why the EU and UK don’t cut off the USA entirely in response. Cancel all flights, cancel all visas. Cut the internet connection, allow no cargo to dock or undock, block all financial transactions. How hard can it be, if they want to be a pariah fine, it’s no great loss.
You want a BrEUxit?
I think the only response to Trump’s threat is a demand that he explain himself in order to allow trade to resume.
Why bother? He’d only talk about the new ballroom being built at the Whitehouse amyways.
Something you should know about Macron: the more seriously he takes an issue, the less he does about it.
And also, sometimes he pretends to take an issue seriously so he can make the situation worse without appearing to be responsible.
Right now, he’s probably packing his golf clubs.
He did send troops to Greenland though.
I don’t know how he’s perceived in France by the french people. But that’s not how I see him from outside France.
It would be cool if you could elaborate.
Macron is very unpopular in France. A poll by a reputable institute published today gives him an 18% approval rating, compared to 79% disapproval.
At the moment, everyone is waiting for him to leave (2027). The left hates him because of his authoritarian policies, which are geared solely towards the wealthiest. The right wants his job so it can do more or less the same thing. The far right has never been so close to power and is biding its time, ready to do the same but with even greater brutality and racism.
His presidency has seen two huge social movements: the yellow vests (quasi-insurrectionary for purchasing power) and the pension reform, with the population overwhelmingly supporting the unions (and in the end Macron getting his bill passed without a vote in parliament).
Under his presidency, the police have also become much more violent: using weapons considered to be weapons of war, techniques for surrounding demonstrators, labeling opponents as terrorists in order to use anti-terrorism measures (particularly ecologist opponents).
It would take forever to list all of his empty or misleading speeches, but here are a few examples.
He declared that violence against women would be a “major national cause.” He did nothing about it, not a single law, not a penny spent on it. But he appointed ministers who had already been accused of rape. Also a few weeks ago, his wife was recorded calling feminists “sale connes” (fucking bitches).
He promised a consultation on ecology, and he got randomly selected citizens and experts to work on it. This group was supposed to make recommendations that would be written into law. In the end, Macron didn’t take any of the working group’s proposals. On the contrary, he keeps making laws for intensive agriculture.
He was elected thanks to votes from the left to block the far-right candidate. He promised he would fight against her racist ideas. All he has done is play into the hands of the far right by impoverishing the country, telling the same anti-immigration bullshit, and designating the left as the political enemy to be defeated.
He made abortion legal under the Constitution (it was already legal, but not as a constitutional principle)… But under wording that definitively excludes trans men, and that could one day be used to say that trans women are not women.
And I could continue over and over.
Until the captured by the oligarchy mainsream parties running as status quo lose to a far right running as reform backed by the us and russia. Then it changes, and it is inevitable without popular reform on the ballot.
How much does france unbowed have to suck that they never take it. Or their influencers that they keep with unpopular platforms?
