• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    12 hours ago

    It does if you have even a bare minimum of reading comprehension. The objective of NATO was to try and break up Russia as outlined in detail in this RAND paper. The goal was to cut off Russia economically from trade and collapse its economy. That obviously didn’t happen, and now NATO finds itself in a proxy war that it lost. The goal of Russia is pretty obvious as well. It’s to remove NATO threat on its border and ideally to break up NATO. This is the goal Russia is currently accomplishing.

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      12 hours ago

      It broke up nato by making countries who didn’t join for 50 years join it , see Sweden and Finland , wait, where is Finland geographically?

      Probably not on the border with the super mega power:D

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        10 hours ago

        Sweden and Finland were already so integrated with the western military block through the EU that them officially joining NATO is less a material change and more a symbolic formality. Not to mention that the Finnish-Russian border is an even worst path to invade Russia from Europe than the already difficult paths through Poland and Ukraine, and we know how invasions of Russia through those routes tend to go.

        So it’s not the loss for Russia you think it is.

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        11 hours ago

        NATO has always been a US project. Without the US there is no NATO, Europe can’t even produce basic stuff like explosives at this point. And if you don’t understand that the US turning on Europe is the direct outcome of the war, what else is there to say really.

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          11 hours ago

          The Us is turning on Europe because russia is not worth keeping an alliance anymore

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              11 hours ago

              Unless you think that russia is more of a danger now than it was during cold war

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                11 hours ago

                Russia has never been an actual danger to the west, but it has been a great bogey man to keep Europeans under the US control. Europe was relevant to the US during Cold War because USSR posed an ideological threat to the dictatorship of capital. Now that Russia is capitalist, Europe has lost its value and it’s going to be cannibalized so that the US can focus on their new adversary in the Asia. Hence why NATO is now done.