• Gathorall@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    No individual is that stupid. They’re just evil bigots too cowardly to even put their bigotry on their own conscience so they seek other bigots that provide a fantasy and community where their bigotry is a virtue.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      14 hours ago

      People aren’t just born this way. They’re indoctrinated.

      It’s not a question of stupidity, it’s an issue of perspective. It’s the same way you have Texas grade school bludgeon “Mexico tyrannized Texas but now we’re free” into each subsequent generation of kids as part of the Texas History curriculum. You raise generations of Floridians by telling them over and over and over again that Cuba is the Bad Place run by the Bad People and its your duty to liberate them by any means necessary. It doesn’t work on everybody, but it inevitably cements this reflexive fear in somebody.

      And then you sift these radicals off the pool with police/military recruitment, religious clubs and mission trips, political organizations and anti-communist business communities, and a dozen other state-sponsored organizing groups. In the same way you make an atom bomb - by sifting and compressing the most radioactive isotopes of uranium - you can make Miami Cuban radicalism.

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        14 hours ago

        Do you apply the same lack of agency to everyone or just reactionary proles?

        If you dig far enough, nothing is technically anyone’s fault and free will is an illusion. Even the self deluding centrists, unhinged millionaire libertarians, and ineffectual gay liberals that I know you despise ultimately are just following their programming.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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          11 hours ago

          If you dig far enough, nothing is technically anyone’s fault

          This is the nut of it. Social problems are systemic not individualistic and need to be solved systemically.

          • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            10 hours ago

            Making excuses for them will prevent any systemic solutions.

            Everything your saying is just as true for sexual predators. We don’t allow them to roam freely just because it’s not their fault because locking them away doesn’t solve the underlying systmetic problem.

            • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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              10 hours ago

              Nobody is making excuses. And trying to pivot this to sexual predators is redundant. A lot of these people are in the human trafficking business, because its an extension of the cartel system that the US endorses across Latin America.

              You do need to recognize the problem as holistic, rather than just singling out individuals. Shutting down the CIA-backed human trafficking pipeline is more important than being angry at a single Cuban expat for voting wrong.