Toyota, Progressive Insurance, and a data analytics firm are now being accused of collecting detailed personal driving information without proper consent

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    2 days ago

    Honestly if a car has any form of internet connectivity built in, it should raise so many red flags before you even sit down to talk financing.

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        my rates do seem high. I had a wreck a few years back but it was a dented door and fixed just fine. I work from home so I dont drive all that much, and the car is cheap. But it does have telemetry. I wonder if I should just bridge a resistor across the onstar antenna terminals

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          Casually reading, you could put a 50ohm or larger resistor there.

          You will have a better result removing/disabling the module completely. There are several searchable tutorials based on the vehicle module.

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            21 hours ago

            Yes but if it ever goes into the shop a software update can teach it to misbehave when things are disconnected. An artificially weak signal, on the other hand, would fall under a practical failure mode they would have accommodated for in firmware.

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              20 hours ago

              Ah, I don’t think about dealerships unless I’m looking for used cars. I repair everything I own the best I can and move on when I can’t. It’s stressful, but I prefer it to a payment.

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          Searching for your car model + ‘disable modem’, ‘remove cellular’, ‘physically remove 5g’, etc. Will often come up with guides for specific vehicles.

          In my car, it’s just a separate board you can just unplug.

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        2 days ago

        My '24 Civic has no connectivity but bluetooth. I don’t know about the 25s.

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      So, OnStar, for decades now, has had cellular activity whether you were paying for it or not. They just used to be careful about not selling data. But even if the user didn’t pay and the manufacturer didn’t sell, those models are trackable by ISP.

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              They definitely have. You have to jump through hoops to request and delete your data from some data broker. I had to do this, it was a massive report with no context and arbitrary statements like “hard braking” and “excessive acceleration”. They sell the data to brokers who sell out to insurance companies to raise your rates based on these arbitrary reports.