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how does one approach ostensible commies/comrades doing the whole #freeiran bullshit, in the Netherlands a bunch of “pro-Palestine” orgs are outing themselves as zionist by either expressing support for “Iranian protesters” or doing a “both sides” thing where they say “fuck both the regime and the US” (whatever that means??)
should i still go to events even if the organizers parrot that imperialist bs, should one discuss it wherever possible, voice it until i get kicked out, etc
or should one boycott them and just involve oneself with the extremely few anti-imperialist orgs still present
The next best thing for the State Department, if they can’t get leftists to outright support imperialist intervention and regime change, is to get you to “both-sides” it.
They don’t need to get you to support imperialism if they can, for all practical intents and purposes, simply neutralize your opposition to imperialism.
There is absolutely no comparison between a global empire and a state defending itself from imperialist aggression and nefarious regime change operations.
If Iran’s government is toppled it will be subjugated again to the interests of imperialism as it was under the Shah, its resources extracted for Western profits.
How did the regime change in Syria turn out? How did it turn out in Libya? Are the people there better off now?
There is only so often that we can tolerate imperial core so-called leftists to fall for the same trick over and over again before we have to admit that maybe they’re not being tricked.
Maybe they are siding with empire over the victims of empire because it validates their chauvinism and advances their material interests.
That would be my instinct. Do it loud. Do it hard. Do it with planned talking points like “Free Iran like how they freed Iraq? How is Syria doing with all that freedom? America has never made anywhere better. All they ever do is steal, murder, and r pe. Even their own country is a shit hole because of the actions of their government. anyone who thinks a free Iran involves the USA or israel is a zionist fascist who belongs in Barbara pit mine.” and when anyone pushes back You say “Oh look a running dog for imperialism. Are you getting a paid by the CIA or are you a soulless monster for fun?” “anyone associating with these running dog of empire is not my comrade. I can forgive ignorant liberals but I expect comrades to know better than to support american interventions.”
You need to plan this out carefully, otherwise they will just deal with you, especially if you are alone, but you can agitate within the larger groups.
If their leaders censor your opinions uncritically, they lose legitimacy in the eyes of any potential turnover.