Democracy died in plain sight with the lights on.

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      I know it’s not all American, but unfortunately we have to treat USA as a collective, when the collective is acting like an enemy.
      I hope somehow USA will come to their senses, and not elect a raving lunatic again, after a period of sanity.

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        No, I get it. This is how it needs to be played. I consider myself an outlier in that I know and care about all the insane geopolitical shit we’re doing now (in addition to the domestic situation), but there are a fuckload of complacent and/or bigoted assholes here. And the only way to shake them out of their complacency is pain and discomfort, economic or otherwise. So, genuinely, have at it. I know this is what the situation requires, and I for one really do not hold it against you. Our government is forcing your hand.

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        it takes more than hope. the US needs so much change it won’t come without blood.

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          USA is a very violent country, and I suspect you are right. Anecdotally the decades of refusal for stricter federal gun regulations indicate that very many Americans want violence.

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        You’re absolutely right, and, as an American, I encourage it. These people don’t stand for us, and they need to face consequences. One thing I’ll always disagree with though is treating all the people as the same entity. No matter where it is, this is a class war. We need to work with people in every nation to fight against rising fascism, wherever it is. We’re in this together, against them. We need allies to fight it though.

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          There are lots of Americans I like very much. USA has some very exceptional people and many good people.
          Unfortunately they are not the ones in power, and the ones in power are not just a little bit bad and a little bit selfish.
          They are lead Trump who is a flaming malignant narcissist, with a White House filled with Sociopaths. It’s an absolutely insane government that doesn’t give a shit about causing harm or breaking up old alliances if they think they can profit from it.

          As gravitas_deficiency wrote, the US government is forcing our hand, and we can’t treat USA like 2 countries, we have to treat it as 1 country. Last time with Trump we waited it out, but Trump has made that an impossible option this time. And the American people has made it an impossible option by electing Trump twice.