• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    2 days ago

    Every Republican is so so so so so much worse, though, so let’s all go door to door to sing praises for the DNC. If the DNC had more than 48 seats for the first time in over 13 years they wouldn’t have any excuses left. Let’s do that.

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      If the DNC had more than 48 seats for the first time in over 13 years they wouldn’t have any excuses left.

      You mean like when they had a supermajority under Obama and did nothing to codify abortion protections, resulting in Trump being able to largely repeal them?

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      If the DNC had more than 48 seats

      Their caucus had 50.

      The ones who voted with republicans were DEMOCRATS, not the independents who caucus with the party.

      Now stop lying for the enablers of fascism just because you love the results.

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        Oh WOOoooOoWiEee mr

        They had a split 50:50 majority with caucusing and no progress occured? Thats lunacy! Dems are the devil, paid opposition, clearly! /sarcasm

        Reminder that the most ind senators we’ve had in over a hundred years was 4 right before GOP swept 2024.

        Reminder that half the IND voted to end the long government shutdown last year.

        Reminder that an IND stopped the DNC from passing real healthcare reform in 2010, the only time the DNC with caucus had supermajority since 1979.

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          Reminder that an IND stopped the DNC from passing real healthcare reform in 2010

          And suddenly we’re not talking about the past 13 years now that it’s convenient for you. Fine. The independent that made sure people went bankrupt and die for you was democrat enough to be Al Gore’s running mate in 2000. He counted then but since we needed a villain to rotate in to make sure sick people die like you and all centrists demand, he’s conveniently an independent. He also had the help of Ben Nelson, a Democrat. Congratulations on all the unnecessary death. Your portion of the caucus is justifiably proud of all the blood on your hands.

          So for an encore, centrists supported genocide. You’re just republicans who want people to pretend you’re not.

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              The purpose of a system is what it does. Democrats find the votes to block progress and support genocide.

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      So what do we do when they don’t have any excuses left? Because they’re sure as shit not going to fix anything whether they’re able to or not. This is a Capitalist country - people work for money and nothing else, and most of Democrat’s money comes from donations from tech and finance giants who love the free reign they’re being given right now. As soon as the Democrats accepted that money it literally became their job to keep things the same for the benefit of their benefactors. On paper they’re against the far right, but money supersedes all of that.

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        So what do we do when they don’t have any excuses left?

        just keep electing dems, because the party can only be failed never fail 😭

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        24 hours ago

        I’m assuming exactly what you want to happen will happen: people will abandon the DNC. It’s perfect, isn’t it? Either things drastically improve like they promise or the glorious revolution begins. There is no lose condition if we just elect DNC.

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          You do? I certainly don’t. I think people will vote Democrat even as the gap between them and the Republicans closes more and more, to the point where they only know which is which by the color of their logo. That’s the issue with voting not for a person, and not for a set of ideals, but for the simple concept of “anything but the worst possible outcome,” especially in a world where the worst possible outcome keeps getting worse and worse.

          I picture a world 30 years from now where we’re celebrating a win for a Democrat candidate who’s exactly like Donald Trump, because his Republican opponent is somehow even worse, all while the corporations that fund both parties celebrate 300% yearly growth. We need to vote blue, not because Democrats will do anything, but because things at least won’t get worse as we continue to organize the revolution. To wait and see what they do is to waste time that would be better served organizing.

          We shouldn’t be singing the praises of Democrats, because they are just as integral of a part of the system as their opponents, and it will all need to be torn down before things can be rebuilt. The biggest hurdle is going to be getting people like you to let go of your everlasting hope that somehow there’s still a slight chance that all Democrats will suddenly become different people and decide not to do the very thing they got into politics to do - to get their very own bag of blood money.