Israel’s far right seems to believe that destroying Palestinian governance will afford Israel more strength. On the contrary—it is a mistake that will become expensive, bloody, and self-destructive as it accelerates the cycles of resentment and violence. And Washington, too, stands to lose a great deal by turning a blind eye to the West Bank: the PA’s collapse will remove any plausible path toward the kind of regional stabilization and effective postwar settlement on which the Trump administration has staked much of its foreign policy legacy.

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    “Quietly” meaning that Western media are currently tired of the conflict and busy with something else. A cycle that has repeated countless times.

    it is a mistake that will become expensive, bloody, and self-destructive as it accelerates the cycles of resentment and violence

    Totally agree. Look back at the past 8 decades of this conflict and all the other horrors unleashed at least partly through America’s attempts to “stabilize” the area. The only thing they seem to have learned is “we need more guns”.

    PS: “Quietly” also means that most Palestinian journalists are - dead.

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      July 2028 Summer Olympics in LA are likely going to be extra strained, assuming they happen.

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      “Quietly” as in it’s being done with far fewer bombs and bullets than Gaza

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      To be fair, it helps to have 20th century global power history knowledge to appreciate the word “annex”. Most of their readership still isn’t appreciating the moment.

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      Not quitely would mean that Israel would announce publicly sovereignity on the whole west bank and dismantle the PA

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          Actually the Oslo Accords were not a failure it worked as intended. It was a temporary plan to ease up Palestinians anger and be easier to control Palestinians. Area C is the part where the most valuable resources are so they focused on this part so it is fully under Israel control while the rest is partially controlled by the Palestinians authority that will serve as a security force to protect Israel and the colonies and settler terrorists .

          Rabin himself said he will not give a fully independent Palestinian sate , he never planed to give back all Palestinians rights that international laws give them . Palestinians should get back all of the west bank , all of Gaza and east Jerusalem. It didn’t include Palestinians right to an army to defend itself and not even full control of .

          We view the permanent solution… alongside [the State of Israel] a Palestinian entity ** which will be a home to most of the Palestinian residents living in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. We would like this to be an ** entity which is less than a state , and which will independently run the lives of the Palestinians under its authority

          In the Oslo II Accord documents

          **Article V of Annex I: ** This explicitly states that Israel retains the “overriding responsibility for security” and for the external borders, including the border with Jordan and Egypt.

          At crossings like the Allenby Bridge (to Jordan), Palestinian travelers had to pass through an Israeli-controlled security layer. Even today, the Palestinian Authority has no authority to stamp a passport and grant entry to a foreigner without Israeli systems being involved.

          Article XIII of Annex I: This section states that Israel retains exclusive control over all airspace in the West Bank and Gaza.

          https://www.palquest.org/en/historictext/24965/yitzhaq-rabin’s-address-knesset-after-israeli-palestinian-agreement

          The reality on the ground today match the plan

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              Yitzhak Rabin was not from the likud party. The likud party is not even the most extreme party Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich are not from the likud party.

              Zionism is the real problem, the ideology behind the colonization

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    It’s not quiet, some of us have noticed for weeks and knew it was only a matter of time.

    This will escalate as well.

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      This will escalate as well.

      I truly hope that they’ll fight back, and that the world will notice, but honestly I’m not so sure. How long did it take for Gaza to become a household name? How much does it take to break a people? How many Palestinians are even left anymore?

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        What about the situation for Americans themselves?

        That’s part of the problem…the Palestine issue being used by bad actors as not just a handy deflection (used here) but a disruptor to their elections.

        It’s about time Americans put that issue aside and sorted out their own house, because until they do they can’t or won’t do anything about the issue.

        The US can’t do anything about Palestine; Netanyahu calls the shots there. The US needs to stop being distracted by it. Sorry if that sounds callous but that’s how it is.

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        Probably, yes.

        Personally, I suspected it was on the cards after the Hamas attack, which I always have and still think was set up, for this and other purposes.

        It worked too. Got Trump elected, Syria, Hamas and Hezbollah either done or severely weakened, the Gaza Strip annexed and removed Russia from the area.

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          which I always have and still think was set up

          I mean yeah, Hamas itself was set up by Israel and thats not even speculation. The progress on a two state solution was going too smoothly which was not acceptable for Israels right wing, so they funded the operations of a new, more aggressive resistance group that could be used as an excuse for invasion.

          From wikipedia:

          Hamas was initially discreetly supported by Israel as a counter-balance to the secular PLO.

          And its also a fact that the higher ups in the chain of command told the border guards to stop patrolling right before the attack.

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            It’s a “yes, but” kind of situation. Israel absolutely funded and promoted Hamas with the idea that it would be a counterbalance to the secular PLO and cause infighting, but what ended up happening is Fatah and the Palestinian Authority became (by and large) willing compradors, while Hamas not only remained a resistance movement, but moderated their views over time.

            The original Hamas charter was basically boilerplate antisemitism, blaming the Jews for the French Revolution, the Freemasons, and so-on, and stated explicitly that their fight was with the Jews. The updated charter of 2017 is completely different, in form and content the charter of a secular national liberation movement. The new charter rejects the idea that their struggle is with the Jewish people, but with the Zionist project. They still maintain Islamic framing, of course (“In the name of Allah, the most merciful”, etc.), but the actual content of their rhetoric is that of secular national liberation. They’re likewise allied with and have the support of secular resistance groups.

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    Watching this shit unfold is like the “shhh” scene from Saving Private Ryan, with the rest of the world sitting in the corner doing absolutely fuck-all to stop it.