• lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    He’s right. Clinical addiction has nothing to do with how much you do something, it has to do with how much it causes problems in your life. I know everyone on Lemmy is tripping over their own hard ons to kill corporations, but there are people using lemmy 16 hours a day and if laws are passed to fight Internet addiction, they will not specifically target corporations. We all go down together. Just ask the creator of Urban Dead.

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      1 day ago

      So someone doing Heroin everday is not addicted if it doesn’t cause any problems in life? Clinical Addiction absolutely does have to do with how much you do something (and other factors of course).

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        1 day ago

        That’s a physical addiction. Drug addiction is a problem physicians handle. Psychologists handle addiction to video games, gambling, sex, the Internet, etc and that’s how they define addiction.

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          19 hours ago

          That is simply not correct. It is true that addiction to substances ends in physical dependency. But at its core all addiction is psychological. A heroin addict doesn’t relapse after two years of being sober because he’s still physically addicted to it. In most cases it’s about missing the capacity for emotional regulation. And people addicted to substances don’t get treated by physicians, at least where I’m from.

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            8 hours ago

            It is correct. If you do heroin everyday, you will have physical problems. If you stop playing Team Fortress 2 and it causes you to start shaking, vomiting, and shitting your pants, then that’s comparable to heroin. But you won’t do that so they’re not the same types of addiction. That’s why the medical community defines addiction by how something affects your life and not by some arbitrary number of times you do it.

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              7 hours ago

              There are more than one criteria by which addiction gets defined. One of these absolutely is how often you do something. How it affects you is not the only criteria by which the medical community defines an addiction, albeit one of them.

              Heroin Addiction is different to Team Fortress addiction in the same way it is different to Cannabis addiction, they are all unique in how they affect you. The physical and psychological effects of cannabis addiction are going to be different to the ones of heroin and internet addiction.

              If they were only defined by how they affect you, like you argue, then every addiction would be a unique type of addiction, which is not how we define them

              Again at the core all addiction is psychogical. We don’t differenciate between them on basis of physical effects.

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                6 hours ago

                So how many hours of TF2 can you play a day before doctors will diagnose you with an addiction? Four, eight, sixteen?

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                  6 hours ago

                  I’m sorry but did you even read my comment? As in the part where I explain there are multiple criterias that define an addiction?

                  But to take the numbers mentioned in the Post, yes, 16 hours of instagram use are an extremely strong indication of an addiction. If more criteria are fulfilled then it will definetely be diagnosed as an addiction.

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                    5 hours ago

                    Yes I read your comment. So if a man is compelled to murder two hobos a month and can’t break the habit, that would not be a strong indication of an addiction?

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      2 days ago

      I guess we could chalk it up to bad journalism because the example was purely anecdotal. It‘s frustrating for sure.