American billionaires literally funded the US fascism and have made it public policy to support fascistic governments and groups within the EU. See the US sec of state endorsing Orban this week as evidence.
Honeslty think you ae a bot in here to spread shit and be divisive for the sake of it.
Nah, you’re just eurocentric and believe the myth of the European garden vs the world jungle, whose roots are white supremacy. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a bot, I’m not calling you an Interpol agent.
I’m not arguing that Europe doesn’t have the potential for being a force of good, I’m arguing that as of now, it’s simply not. The EU was formed not with peace and stability in mind, but with neoliberalism and anticommunism, otherwise it would have never adhered to NATO and participated in all its military campaigns, both informally (Afghanistan) and formally (Libya and Yugoslavia). If we want to praise a country/region for its peace in the past century, we should praise post-Vietnam-war China.
As a Spaniard (country which joined the European Community rather late), I can definitely confirm that it was pretty much explicit that joining NATO was a prerequisite to be accepted in the EU. The EU was born out of the Marshall Plan and of NATO.
There are countries that joined the EU both before and after Spain that are not NATO members. Membership of one is not a prerequisite for another. If any politicians told you otherwise, ask them why.
American billionaires literally funded the US fascism and have made it public policy to support fascistic governments and groups within the EU. See the US sec of state endorsing Orban this week as evidence.
Honeslty think you ae a bot in here to spread shit and be divisive for the sake of it.
Nah, you’re just eurocentric and believe the myth of the European garden vs the world jungle, whose roots are white supremacy. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a bot, I’m not calling you an Interpol agent.
You can’t distinguish between europe and the EU. Europe has a colonial history. The EU was formed with peace and stability in mind.
The atrocities committed by european states across the centuries should be remembered and reparations made to the best possible degree.
The stability that the EU brought to the region should be remembered, lauded and fought for.
Sorry I dont subscribe to your view that once any rvil has taken place in a land that those people can never then be a force for good.
I’m not arguing that Europe doesn’t have the potential for being a force of good, I’m arguing that as of now, it’s simply not. The EU was formed not with peace and stability in mind, but with neoliberalism and anticommunism, otherwise it would have never adhered to NATO and participated in all its military campaigns, both informally (Afghanistan) and formally (Libya and Yugoslavia). If we want to praise a country/region for its peace in the past century, we should praise post-Vietnam-war China.
The EU is not a NATO adherant/member. Many of the EU’s members are also NATO members, but not all.
As a Spaniard (country which joined the European Community rather late), I can definitely confirm that it was pretty much explicit that joining NATO was a prerequisite to be accepted in the EU. The EU was born out of the Marshall Plan and of NATO.
There are countries that joined the EU both before and after Spain that are not NATO members. Membership of one is not a prerequisite for another. If any politicians told you otherwise, ask them why.