“There was an incident on the New York subway and a bunch of people got on, protesters or whatever, and said, ‘All the Zionists, get off.’ When the head of the Brooklyn Museum, who was Jewish, but the Brooklyn Museum had nothing to do with Israel or taking positions on Israel — her house is smeared in red paint. That’s antisemitism. And a lot of the slogans that people use either are or slide into antisemitism.”
“The one that bothers me the most is genocide,” Schumer added. “Genocide is described as a country or some group tries to wipe out a whole race of people, a whole nationality of people. So if Israel was not provoked and just invaded Gaza and shot at random Palestinians, Gazans, that would be genocide. That’s not what happened. In fact, the opposite happened. And Hamas is much closer to genocidal than Israel.
Schumer also sharply criticized the UN for using the term “genocide” when describing the war in Gaza. “The U.N. has been anti-Israel, antisemitically against Israel. [Daniel Patrick] Moynihan was my idol. He became famous when in 1976 [it was 1975] they tried to pass a resolution, Zionism is racism.
That commenter is a Zionist who has repeatedly justified Israel’s actions, continued to repeat Zionist propaganda regardless of how many times it gets debunked, and has denied both that Israel has been cutting off aid throughout the genocide and the reality of famine in Gaza
Wrong. Not a Zionist, which is idiotic.
You post the same fundraising links with zero aside from “reports.” I’m not convinced by evidence that’s falls apart under basic scrutiny. Also, things that make decent people angry aren’t automatically war crimes; the mere fact that civilians die in a warzone does not equate to war crimes.
And, you can’t refute the hard facts:
If Israel wanted to could it obliterate all of Gaza and kill every person in it within a matter of hours or days? Yes.
Has Israel done that? No.
Has Israel killed an obviously excessive number of civilians? Yes.
Are there potentially valid moral and legal explanations for such excess civilian casualties? Yes. Hamas uses mass human shields as a primary strategy of defense and offense; and civilian casualties that occur incidentally to valid military actions–weighed against the larger, conflict- long war against actual terrorists–are not unlawful.
Despite the explanations, is there nonetheless an obscene number of civilians casualties or clear operational intent? No. Again, 99/100 people in Gaza remain alive, and certainly you must agree that tends to suggest there isn’t some rampant genocide as you describe; there are no roving death squads point-blank murdering woman and children, no helicopter gunships firing indicrininatly¹ on crowds of refugees without even a pretext of legit military advantage, such as in Rwanda or Darfur.
Finally, if Hamas surrenders, the war ends. How is that genocidal?
“It’s not genocide because they didn’t kill enough people”.
Yeah there’s a rope with your name on it waiting in nuremberg
“Finally, if the Jews had just left Europe, the holocaust ends. How is that a genocide?”
Sounds kinda stupid now, doesn’t it?
Hamas is the Jews in your analogy? Yes, it does sound stupid.
Well it turns out that what Israel actually means by Hamas is the Gazan people and the government… I guess that’s why they pretty much shoot women and children point blank. So yes. They are in this analogy.
I think you do sound like a Zionist… a few hundred casualties within a few days and everyone is sick and all hospitals are destroyed. Sounds like a genocide attempt to me.
Thanks for proving my point
De-development via the Gaza Occupation
Page 402
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy
Blockade, including Aid
Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation. Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.
After the ‘disengagement’ in 2007, this turned into a full blockade; where Israel has had control over the airspace, borders, and sea. Under the guise of ‘dual-use’ Israel has restricted food, allocating a minimum supply leading to over half of Gaza being food insecure; construction materials, medical supplies, and other basic necessities have also been restricted.
Peace Process and Solution
Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.
Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution
How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution
‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs
Human Shields
Hamas:
HRW on Laws-of-War Violations 2009
Agency Demands Full Respect for the Sanctity of Its Premises in Gaza - July 2014
HRW - Palestinian Armed Groups’ October 7 Assault on Israel
Israel:
Israel/OPT: Israeli attacks targeting Hamas and other armed group fighters that killed scores of displaced civilians in Rafah should be investigated as war crimes
HRW - Gaza: Unlawful Israeli Hospital Strikes Worsen Health Crisis
Additionally, there is extensive independent verification of Israel using Palestinians as Human Shields:
IDF uses Human Shields,
Including Children (2013 Report)
Palestinian children face unrelenting genocide, displacement, and systematic abuse throughout 2024
Israel “Systematically” Uses Gaza Children as Human Shields, Rights Group Finds 2024
Breaking The Silence - Testimonies from IDF Veterans
Deliberate Attacks on Civilians
Israel deliberately targets civilian areas. From in general with the Dahiya Doctrine to multiple systems deployed in Gaza to do so:
The Dahiya Doctrine & Israel’s Use of Disproportionate Force
‘A mass assassination factory’: Inside Israel’s calculated bombing of Gaza
Lavender
Where’s Daddy
Israel also targets Israeli Soldiers and Civilians to prevent them being leveraged as hostages, known as the Hannibal Directive. Which was also used on Oct 7th.
You always have the same propoganda copy pasta ready to go. You have no credibility with me.
Okay but think about it… they may just have well written texts that they readily share. It doesn’t really comment on the quality of the evidence if someone copy paste it a lot. Isn’t it better to read any new text and assess its credibility yourself instead of pre-discarding it by judging the person?