• rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social
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    5 days ago

    Ah. The anti-Semitic card.

    Look here. Being of an opposing opinion with the government of Israel, has nothing to do with opposing Jewism.

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      It is the same with disliking the CCP and liking the Chinese. I care for the people but not for their arsehole countries / governments.

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      Which other countries has Spain recently withdrawn their ambassadors from?

      If it’s only Israel, then an accusation of antisemitism has a reason.

      After looking a bit, Spain withdrew their ambassador from Argentina for something petty. Also from Nicaragua after they had complained about Spanish colonial attitudes.

      Of course Spain also did shit like revoke diplomatic status of the Flemish ambassador over supporting independence for Catalonia.

      So yeah, it looks like Spain is still all into their imperialism regarding Latin America, and of course keep the Basques and Catalans under their thumb.

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        5 days ago

        If they did this to a Christian nation, would it be anti Christian? Or anti Muslim for a Muslim country?

        Israel’s actions aren’t derived from being Jewish.

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          The difference is that there’s only one Jewish state.

          Judaism is also a religion, but Jews are not just a religious group. They are an ethnicity and nation first. Lots of Jews are secular or atheists.

          If you attack Ireland, its anti Irish more than anti catholic.

          Israel‘s actions are derived from wanting to secure the nation state for the Jewish people. The reason Israel is in the Levant and Jerusalem is very much derived from Jewish history, culture, religion, and identity.

          Iran has threatened to destroy Israel for decades and has actively been working on that goal.

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            Securing a nation state for Jewish people at the expense of the Palestinians who have been living in the area for millennia.

            This Jewish nation state was secured by colonial settler Jews not native to the region migrating to the region and taking land for themselves around a century ago after the collapse of the Ottoman empire. They are still to this day expanding their state by stealing the Palestinian land.

            The hatred of Israel by its neighbors is not for no reason and it is not because they are Jews. The Irish were also not fans of the British colonising them, neither were the native people of the Americas when their land was stolen by European settlers. Israel is just another case of European settlers stealing land and causing trouble where they don’t belong.

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            3 days ago

            Excusing wars of conquest, ethnic cleansing, and genocide as “wanting to secure a nation state for one ethnicity” is quite literally the Nazi playbook.