• stoly@lemmy.world
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            4 days ago

            FFS it’s the genocidal assholes who are animals in their statement. Stop finding problems where there are none.

            • Phineaz@feddit.org
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              Being human is immutable, no matter your religion or criminal record. The problem here is that you seem to think that some form of moral high ground gives you the power to deprive someone of their humanity, and frankly I find that disgusting. No one gets to decide who is human and who is not.

              • stoly@lemmy.world
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                3 days ago

                No, you’re projecting. I don’t think anything, I am explaining what the other person meant. Take it up with them.

              • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
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                You’re a poor excuse of a human being if you lack humanity. Stop it already, we’re talking about literal murdering pillaging colonizers. Technically not amoebae or cats, of course, and this is mostly an insult for innocent animals, but these people will be chilling with Satan for eternity.

    • Samskara@sh.itjust.works
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      There weren’t accepted as Europeans in Europe. That’s the whole reason Zionism even started.

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        No doubt, but murdering and forcing people out of their homes isn’t an appropriate way to deal with being persecuted. A religious document about some people millennia ago doesn’t actually give you any entitlement to someone else’s land. And from the very beginning, Zionism’s goal was to exclude Arabs from the region, based on plain racist hatred. Just because they were victims of antisemitism in Europe does not mean they couldn’t continue to perpetrate their own evils, and it’s notable that the antisemite leaders of the time wholeheartedly supported the Zionist project, as do by and large their descendants in the fascist movements of today - because it gets the Jews out of Europe and kills Muslims, they think of it as two birds with one stone. The only long term solution anywhere is for everyone to have equal rights, and it is wrong for Europe and now the US to export their apartheid elsewhere.

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          Theodor Herzl‘s book Der Judenstaat paints a future where Jews and Arabs live together peacefully. He was kind of an influential Zionist.

          Jews moving to Israel bought their land legally, often malaria infested swampland where nobody lived. The locals answered to this peaceful immigration of refugees with violence (Hebron massacre, Arab revolt, etc.).

          As you correctly point out, Jews had nowhere else to go. Israel was the place where they could survive and have a future as a people.

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        Yes, to get rid of them. We shipped them to the middle east and they agreed. Israelis are just self-hating jews who agreed not to mix with white people. Internalised antisemitism

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          Also they have bought into the promise of being tolerated, sometimes even supported, as long as they participate in the oppression of ethnicities further down in the colonial and racist hierarchy.