Jordan Lund is NOT a good human being.

Right, the Gaza Genocide isn’t US Politics… Those aren’t US made bombs being dropped with US politicians cheering them on and US diplomatic support and denial allowing the Genocide to continue. Nothing could be more salient to US politics than the ways in which the Palestinian Genocide drove us to war.

What a joke.

I feel that this situation unfortunately requires escalation and I will be directly contacting Lemmy World mods, I will update with their response.

For the record the first article about corporate complicity in the Palestinian Genocide includes references to many major US corporations, thus making it drirectly relevant to US politics at an immediate level.

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42581206

https://www.alai.info/en/corporate-participation-and-complicity-in-the-genocide-against-the-palestinian/

The second article about US media’s complicity in coverage over the Palestinian Genocide… do I need to actually explain how that is related to US politics? Of course it is?

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579919

https://dawnmena.org/destroying-al-shifa-hospital-robin-andersens-the-complicity-lens-us-media-coverage-of-israels-genocide-in-gaza/

The third article is relevant because the US and Israel have been intimately interwoven in their escalation of Genocide and breaking of international norms, if a Genocide begins in Lebanon it will be a DIRECT continuation of US politics applied first in Israel and next in Lebanon. I mean what the hell we are fighting a war RIGHT NOW and this is the biggest escalation possible IN THAT WAR. How is that NOT related to US politics???

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579757

https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-replicating-its-gaza-war-tactics-lebanon

The fourth article about there being no ceasefire in Gaza, I don’t even know how to go about this one, om, it is politics involving primarily the US here? The US is the single most relevant political actor capable of changing this situation? How is this not US politics? Where can you cleanly draw a line here?

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42630002

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/there-no-ceasefire-gaza

The US is directly and intimately complicit in the Palestinian Genocide, you cannot in good conscience nor with logical consistency separate US politics cleanly from this issue, if you wanted that to be possible you should have spoken up louder against the Genocide before, now it is too late to fumble with broken stilted arguments like this. The Palestinian Genocide is US Politics, period, end of story.

Can we finally stop pretending that what we have been witnessing in Gaza over the past 22 months is a “war,” a “conflict,” or even a “humanitarian crisis”? Many of the world’s leading human rights and humanitarian groups – including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and Doctors Without Borders – agreed months ago that what is being livestreamed to our phones on a daily basis is indeed a genocide.

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Trump’s Republican allies in the House and Senate are even more gung-ho. Forget complicity; Congress is filled with GOP cheerleaders for genocide, from Senators Tom “bounce the rubble in Gaza” Cotton to Lindsey “level the place” Graham. The newest member of the House, Randy Fine, a Republican representative of Florida, has called for the nuking of Gaza and said just days ago that Palestinians in Gaza should “starve away” until the Israeli hostages are all released. (A reminder that incitement to genocide is also a crime under Article III of the Genocide convention.)

But we cannot let Democrats off the hook either. The first 16 months of this mass slaughter unfolded on a Democratic president’s watch. From the get-go, Joe Biden gave Netanyahu and his cabinet of génocidaires everything they needed – 2,000-lb bombs to drop on refugee camps filled with Palestinian children? Check. UN security council vetoes to prevent the passage of resolutions calling for a permanent ceasefire? Check. The burial of internal US government reports warning of war crimes and famine in Gaza? Check.

It wasn’t just Biden. The vast majority of Democrats in Congress spent much of 2024 casting vote after vote to keep arming, funding and whitewashing the mass killing of Palestinian civilians. Even now, in the summer of 2025, seven high-profile Democratic senators were happy to take a smiling photo with Netanyahu, including the Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, who claims talk of genocide is antisemitic and says his job “is to keep the left pro-Israel”.

  • Mehdi Hasan

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/02/the-us-complicit-genocide-israel-gaza

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
    329·
    3 days ago

    If you link to a story showing the US House or Senate voting to cover for Israel (or, heck, voting to sanction Israel), that would, in fact, be US Politics.

    US Politicians taking official action regarding Israel is fine for !politics@lemmy.world

    Israel committing war crimes in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon, Syria goes in !world@lemmy.world

    US Politicians volunteering to be Israeli lapdogs like Schumer or Fetterman do repeatedly? Also !politics@lemmy.world

    Because, again, US politicians doing political things in the US.

    Israel illegally invading Lebanon, AGAIN? !world@lemmy.world That’s Israeli political policy, not US political policy.

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      23 hours ago

      If you link to a story showing the US House or Senate voting to cover for Israel (or, heck, voting to sanction Israel), that would, in fact, be US Politics.

      And you would find a different excuse to remove it for the glory of genocide.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
        13·
        18 hours ago

        Nope, in fact of the stories Squirrel posted to politics, the ONE story involving Democrats introducing a bill to force an explanation for the murder of a Palestinian family was allowed to stand because, shock of shocks, it was ACTUALLY US Politics!

        Still up, feel free to read it!

    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyzOP
      252·
      3 days ago

      Not only is the division you are attempting to construct here utterly artificial, it is an artifice that obscures one of the most brutal human rights atrocities in my lifetime.

      Shame on you, shame on you for toying with this conversation like it is simply an abstracted conversation about definitions. You know it isn’t, don’t treat me like I am stupid enough to believe you think it is.

      There is a Genocide going on right now, as we speak, and you are participating gleefully in silencing conversation about it. Own it coward.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
        327·
        3 days ago

        There is a genocide going on right now, being committed by Israelis, not Americans.

        If you want to see the !politics@lemmy.world appropriate war crimes, look to the bombing of the girls school in Iran. US Policy, US personnel. That’s 100% allowed in Politics.

        If you are incapable of telling the difference between bad actions committed by Israel vs the US, there’s no point in a temp ban, I can just permaban you now.

        • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyzOP
          162·
          3 days ago

          There is a genocide going on right now, being committed by Israelis, not Americans.

          Again you expose the desperate need to remove you as a moderator especially over the Politics community because of your shocking ignorance (conscious or subconscious) about this political topic. It is genuinely alarming to me how confidently you are wrong.

          “We strongly condemn the American mercenaries accused of—and in one case, reportedly caught on camera—opening fire on starving Palestinians seeking food aid in Gaza. Like their counterparts in the Israeli military, these mercenaries are complicit in genocide, and the Justice Department should prosecute them as such.

          “We call on the Trump administration to immediately end our nation’s involvement in so-called Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, and we call on the administration to ban American contractors from participating in this fraudulent, genocidal project.”

          https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-condemns-american-mercernaries-caught-on-camera-celebrating-attacks-on-starving-palestinians-in-gaza/

          At the end of May, the GHF opened two stations in the rubble of Rafah, in the extreme south, and one more in Israel’s militarized Netzarim Corridor across the center of the Strip — equivalent to promising to feed Houston with three grocery stores. This scheme forces the population to move southward.

          American armed guards place limited quantities of forty-pound boxes of food on the ground inside wire fences. Crowds are herded in and out, so they have to compete for their families’ survival. This has the effect of particularly starving elderly, sick, wounded, and disabled people, single mothers, and orphans.

          https://www.leftvoice.org/u-s-mercenaries-are-helping-the-idf-murder-starving-people-in-gaza/

          An American private security company is seeking to hire dozens of U.S. special forces veterans to staff and run a key checkpoint in Gaza, aiming to arm the group to monitor and search Palestinians there, new reporting finds.

          Reportedly as part of the ceasefire deal in Gaza, three private companies have been chosen to screen Palestinians traveling from southern to northern Gaza: North Carolina-based UG Solutions, Wyoming-based Safe Reach Solutions, and an Egyptian company.

          https://truthout.org/articles/private-us-company-is-reportedly-hiring-us-veterans-to-run-gaza-checkpoint/

          • jordanlund@lemmy.world
            316·
            3 days ago

            Please review the posts you had removed and explain how these are, in ANY way US Politics:

            https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-replicating-its-gaza-war-tactics-lebanon

            Any mention of US personnel? Policy? Politicians? No? Goes in World. Not Politics.

            https://dawnmena.org/destroying-al-shifa-hospital-robin-andersens-the-complicity-lens-us-media-coverage-of-israels-genocide-in-gaza/

            What the US media does or does not do is also NOT politics. Again, appropriate for World, not Politics.

            https://www.alai.info/en/corporate-participation-and-complicity-in-the-genocide-against-the-palestinian/

            Similarly, what US corporations do is not Politics. World please.

            https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/there-no-ceasefire-gaza

            You are correct, there is no cease fire in Gaza, who is doing the shooting? Israel.

            None of these stories are remotely similar to stories about US mercenaries taking action in Gaza. That’s why they were removed from Politics.

            • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyzOP
              122·
              3 days ago

              What the US media does or does not do is also NOT politics. Again, appropriate for World, not Politics.

              Similarly, what US corporations do is not Politics. World please.

              What? Did you read the words you just typed?

              I mean thank you for spelling out your positions so I can reference them directly, but wow, this is a truly absurd thing to believe as an adult human being and say outloud without going “huh? wait maybe I should think more before I speak”.

              • jordanlund@lemmy.world
                217·
                3 days ago

                US Politicians are not directing the media or corporations to take these actions. It is NOT politics.

                If you have to get out your red yarn to explain why it is, you lose the argument.

                • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyzOP
                  141·
                  3 days ago

                  2. Corporate responsibility under international law

                  1. Corporate responsibility for violations of human rights, international humanitarian law and crimes under international law is governed by legal instruments at the domestic, regional and international levels.
                  1. The UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights (UNGPs) constitute the normative framework at the international level for the regulation of corporate conduct with respect to human rights.2 They set out what states and corporate entities need to do in order to comply with existing obligations under international human rights law, and are already having a significant impact on national law and policy. Indeed, the UNGPs provide the normative lens through which corporate conduct can be assessed in order to establish legally relevant facts in litigation where corporate liability is addressed. They are concerned both with preventing adverse human rights impacts and ensuring remedial actions are taken where a corporation’s conduct causes, contributes, or is directly linked to such impacts.3 Crucially, heightened normative requirements apply in contexts of conflict, occupation and structural vulnerability, especially where domestic enforcement of international human rights law may be weak or compromised, rendering international oversight necessary.4
                  1. Other areas of international law establish specific legal obligations for corporations, especially international humanitarian law – which is binding on non-State actors involved in armed conflict5 – and international criminal law, under which individuals such as corporate executives, and increasingly corporate entities themselves, can be held criminally liable.6 Domestic courts are the primary jurisdiction for the enforcement of corporate responsibility for human rights violations and international crimes
                  1. International law accords States the primary role of ensuring that corporate entities do not violate international law and respect human rights, as part of their obligation to respect, protect and fulfil human rights. Under international human rights law, confirmed by the UNGPs, States may be found in breach of their human rights obligations where they fail to take appropriate steps to prevent, investigate, punish and redress abuses by private actors when human rights violations occur.7 States have an obligation to extend this regulation and oversight to the operations of corporations that occur outside their territory, in accordance with general extraterritorial human rights obligations.8
                  1. Furthermore, under the rules on State responsibility, violations of human rights by private actors will be attributed to a State where a corporate entity acts on instructions from or under the control or direction of the State, is empowered by State legislation to exercise elements of governmental authority or where the State acknowledges and adopts the conduct as its own.9 Accordingly, the UNGPs require States to take additional steps to protect against human rights abuse by corporate entities owned, controlled by or receiving substantial support from the State.10

                  https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/ahrc5923-economy-occupation-economy-genocide-report-special-rapporteur

                  The companies listed here have provided Israel with weapons and other military equipment used in its attacks on Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, and Syria since October 2023.

                  https://afsc.org/gaza-genocide-companies

                  https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/who-profits-us-corporations-and-the-whitewashing-of-israels-genocide-in-gaza/