Jordan Lund is NOT a good human being.
Right, the Gaza Genocide isn’t US Politics… Those aren’t US made bombs being dropped with US politicians cheering them on and US diplomatic support and denial allowing the Genocide to continue. Nothing could be more salient to US politics than the ways in which the Palestinian Genocide drove us to war.
What a joke.
I feel that this situation unfortunately requires escalation and I will be directly contacting Lemmy World mods, I will update with their response.
For the record the first article about corporate complicity in the Palestinian Genocide includes references to many major US corporations, thus making it drirectly relevant to US politics at an immediate level.
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42581206
The second article about US media’s complicity in coverage over the Palestinian Genocide… do I need to actually explain how that is related to US politics? Of course it is?
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579919
The third article is relevant because the US and Israel have been intimately interwoven in their escalation of Genocide and breaking of international norms, if a Genocide begins in Lebanon it will be a DIRECT continuation of US politics applied first in Israel and next in Lebanon. I mean what the hell we are fighting a war RIGHT NOW and this is the biggest escalation possible IN THAT WAR. How is that NOT related to US politics???
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579757
https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-replicating-its-gaza-war-tactics-lebanon
The fourth article about there being no ceasefire in Gaza, I don’t even know how to go about this one, om, it is politics involving primarily the US here? The US is the single most relevant political actor capable of changing this situation? How is this not US politics? Where can you cleanly draw a line here?
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42630002
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/there-no-ceasefire-gaza
The US is directly and intimately complicit in the Palestinian Genocide, you cannot in good conscience nor with logical consistency separate US politics cleanly from this issue, if you wanted that to be possible you should have spoken up louder against the Genocide before, now it is too late to fumble with broken stilted arguments like this. The Palestinian Genocide is US Politics, period, end of story.
Can we finally stop pretending that what we have been witnessing in Gaza over the past 22 months is a “war,” a “conflict,” or even a “humanitarian crisis”? Many of the world’s leading human rights and humanitarian groups – including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and Doctors Without Borders – agreed months ago that what is being livestreamed to our phones on a daily basis is indeed a genocide.
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Trump’s Republican allies in the House and Senate are even more gung-ho. Forget complicity; Congress is filled with GOP cheerleaders for genocide, from Senators Tom “bounce the rubble in Gaza” Cotton to Lindsey “level the place” Graham. The newest member of the House, Randy Fine, a Republican representative of Florida, has called for the nuking of Gaza and said just days ago that Palestinians in Gaza should “starve away” until the Israeli hostages are all released. (A reminder that incitement to genocide is also a crime under Article III of the Genocide convention.)
But we cannot let Democrats off the hook either. The first 16 months of this mass slaughter unfolded on a Democratic president’s watch. From the get-go, Joe Biden gave Netanyahu and his cabinet of génocidaires everything they needed – 2,000-lb bombs to drop on refugee camps filled with Palestinian children? Check. UN security council vetoes to prevent the passage of resolutions calling for a permanent ceasefire? Check. The burial of internal US government reports warning of war crimes and famine in Gaza? Check.
It wasn’t just Biden. The vast majority of Democrats in Congress spent much of 2024 casting vote after vote to keep arming, funding and whitewashing the mass killing of Palestinian civilians. Even now, in the summer of 2025, seven high-profile Democratic senators were happy to take a smiling photo with Netanyahu, including the Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, who claims talk of genocide is antisemitic and says his job “is to keep the left pro-Israel”.
- Mehdi Hasan
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/02/the-us-complicit-genocide-israel-gaza
Nope, because nobody is ordering the US to do anything. Support for Israel is more of a knee-jerk reaction.
Or better… the old apes, stairs, banana, firehose parable…
https://whatsthepont.blog/2021/02/02/because-thats-the-way-weve-always-done-things-around-here/
You’ve got 5 Apes in a cage,
You’ve got a banana hanging by a string in the middle of the cage,
You’ve got some stairs going to the banana.
Now, pretty soon one of those Apes is going to go for the banana.
As soon as he hits the stairs,
You take a hose and spray all 5 Apes with freezing cold water for 5 minutes.
Now, some time passes.
And pretty soon another one of the Apes is going to make the same attempt (to get the banana) with the same result; all 5 Apes get sprayed with cold water.
Now, you turn off the cold water, you never use it again.
Time passes, and one of the Apes goes for the banana,
As he hits the stairs, the other 4 Apes pounce on him and beat the crap out of him.
OK, understandable.
Now, you replace one of those original Apes with a new Ape.
After a while that new Ape, well , he’s going to spy that banana.
And, when he goes for the stairs, the other 4 Apes are going to jump on him and beat the crap out of him.
Time passes and you replace another one of the original Apes with a new Ape, who is going to go for the banana.
The other 4 Apes beat the crap out of him, right?
Including, the first new Ape who has no idea why he is enthusiastically beating the crap out of this poor new guy.
Nor, why he himself had the crap beaten out of him.
OK?
Now, you keep replacing those original Apes with new Apes until finally you’ve got a cage filled with 5 Apes,
Who have NEVER had freezing cold water sprayed on them.
And never the less…
Not one of those Apes will ever attempt to climb those stairs again.
Why not?
Because, that’s the way we’ve always done it around here…
Which is why said it was the new version of the nazi excuses. It’s much worse that the usa is fine helping and abetting.
Again your analogy doesn’t work, this time because no one is doing anything to stop them. (and really really poor choice of example doing apes in place of those in the middle east)
The ape analogy, in this instance, are the US politicians doing the same thing over and over “because that’s the way we always do it.” But thanks for at least attempting to follow it.
You can’t follow non-existent orders, they are supporting Israel because we’ve always supported Israel. Circular logic is circular. Nobody told them to do it, it’s habitual.
It absolutely needs to change, but it won’t as long as there are AIPAC dollars floating around.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/17/us/elections/illinois-primaries-aipac-cryptocurrency-ai-superpacs.html
we aren’t committed the genocide, we’re just preventing any other country from doing anything about it. We totally are asking them nicely to not commit it and starve people but we just can’t do anything but continue to supply them with weapons. Wait why are you upset at us!?!
Again shows you need to work on the analogies
Pretty much, yeah, we can ask Israel to stop, but let’s be real here, Netanyahu doesn’t give a single fuck about what we ask them to do.
The real solution to the crisis is beyond anyone’s will to do. Boots on the ground invasion of Israel, take everyone into custody and have full on war crimes trials in the Hague, but that is never going to happen.
Well yeah, because America is providing cover and preventing anyone from stopping it
The story I’ve been telling for 40 years now is Israel is bratty little shit on the playground who thinks he can get away with anything “because my big brother can beat you up!”
It will continue until big brother steps aside and lets the little bastard get his ass whipped.
Unfortunately, it’s unlikely that will ever happen.
Your story is literally describing why the genocide is part of American politics…
And yet the removed article was absolutely not. Go read it again. Nothing in there about US Politics in the slightest.
Do you need a venn diagram? Will that help you?