• biofaust@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Question is: now that we got the big loud bully out of the house, can the EU and maybe someone else who is sensible, like Canada, enter the room and bring actual diplomatic value to this sharade?

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      23 hours ago

      Probably not. Russia’s motives dont stem from a communications failure. They stem from predatory imperialist intent, and they arnt scared of the EU or Canada.

    • JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
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      21 hours ago

      No

      The EU will continue funding Ukraine’s war, allowing thousands of people to die on both sides of the war. And they’ll slowly ease on Russian restrictions if they feel like they need it for economic growth.

      The EU could force Russia’s hand and end this war but it doesn’t seem like they want to

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        20 hours ago

        Would you rather we give in to terrorists? Or start World War 3?

        Russia is the bully that could end this conflict any time they want.

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          20 hours ago

          See my other comment.

          Russia can’t even conquer Ukraine after 3 years. They are only a bully to the little guys.

          Europe could easily demolish Russia and their old and tired military. I’m not saying that europe should invade Russia. Ofc not. But this Putin bluff is long gone. And ofc it’s Russia that can end this anytime they want but until they are forced to they won’t. Which bully do you know that returned the lunch money that they stole out of what? Compassion? Just because it’s wrong?

          And you are talking about WW3 but the EU is planning to triple their defence budget in preparation for war, so you tell me who wants WW3

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              10 hours ago

              Russia doesn’t want WW3

              They’d get proper fucked. I mean we all would but they’d have no chance.

              They play that card because it’s the only card they have and because Europe is happy with the status quo

              Trump was trying to fleece Ukraine for parts and Europe did fuck all

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          20 hours ago

          The EU needs to put actual restrictions on Russia, Russian oligarchs and Russian allies/goods, not just a not even fully opaque curtain that is easily circumvented like it is atm (even by EU members).

          They also need to properly support Ukraine’s military so that they can repel Russian troops back to Ukraine’s borders instead of just giving them enough ammo and guns that will allow them to continue this war of attrition. Maybe they could use all the resources that Germany sends to Israel for example.

          And then they need to do what was said above. Actually come to the table with Russia and negotiate the end of the war.

          But atm that isn’t possible because Russia is not being forced to. They made their ground and ofc aren’t keen on giving it back and Ukraine is also not willing to give part of the country to Russia (as they shouldn’t). And the EU politicians are happy to be profiting of this war and shift their economies to war economies in order to fill their pockets further.

          We haven’t done shit for climate change and it’s not even being discussed anymore. And it will only get worse.