• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    7 hours ago

    It’s amazing how quickly leftists support was crimes so long as the victims are “the right people”.

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      7 hours ago

      I’m also amazed at how quickly you blame leftists based on one person’s comment that gave no indication that they are a leftist.

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          6 hours ago

          So you’re making assumptions based on your flawed and biased experience instead of factual data. Got it. I expected that given the quality of comment you provided above.

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              No, I simply recognise what I perceive may not be the same as reality and would double check my assumptions before posting any comment so I do less mistakes. I especially do not proudly proclaim that my comments lack any research whatsoever and that I’m completely fine with it like you are doing.

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                6 hours ago

                I especially do not proudly proclaim that my comments lack any research whatsoever and that I’m completely fine with it like you are doing.

                Let me phrase this in a dickish way to which you are accustomed:

                So you pretend you do “research” and present your shit ideas as though they have any basis in fact despite the fact that they’re just as flawed as my expereince-based observations? Got it.

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                  Checking if the person I’m accusing of being a leftist is a leftist first before posting the comment is not pretending to do research, it’s simply common sense.

                  You somehow think that making comments involves either peer-reviewed science or zero research at all and nothing in between. You also seem to be proud of not double-checking your assumptions at all. From these two observations, I can tell that you have a few issues up there that needs to be addressed.

        • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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          I suppose I don’t really know why I engage with willfully ignorant dumbasses. It’s just that it feels wrong to leave the really fucking stupidly wrong comments with no reply. I know it won’t break through the ignorance. They’re living in their own little alternate reality, ignoring everything that doesn’t fit into their little constructed worldview, attacking everyone who is actually trying to make the world a better place.

          But I guess it makes me feel better to speak up against the stupidity, even though it’s useless. Because if we don’t, these idiots will dominate the conversation and it will end up with more people going down that path.

          It’s like the anecdote of the bar where the guy is at the bar having a drink. Another guy walks in, goes up to the bar and orders a drink. Bartender tells him to get out. New guy says, “Hey, I just want to have a drink and relax, man.” Bartender has none of it, tells him to get out and never come back. New guy leaves, and our original guy asks the bartender about it, to which the bartender replies: “That guy had a swastika tattoo. He was a nazi. And the thing is, he probably would have been polite and had a drink and maybe even made friendly conversation. But the thing about nazis: Once he realized he was allowed here, he’d start bringing his other nazi friends. Once you let one of them in and stay, you become a nazi bar.”

          It’s a little glurgy, and maybe it never happened or maybe it’s happened a hundred times… that’s the thing about anecdotes like that.

          But the underlying principle is sound.

          If we let these fucking fascists take over the conversation, soon this place will be no better than /r/the_donald or /r/conservative or Truth Social or any of the other places fascists congregate.

          So I guess that’s why I speak up.

          But I don’t really try to change their stupid opinions, because there’s no fucking point. All I really would like to see is for them to shut the fuck up and stop pissing all over the conversation.

    • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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      6 hours ago

      They made themselves the right people with the genocide they support. 5 years ago it was a different story. But 100,000+ Palestinians later, I have no sympathy for Israelis. FAFO

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      7 hours ago

      I am not convinced these people are leftist tbh. At least in my leftist circles in the real world atrocities like these are not celebrated.

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        6 hours ago

        Maybe not - though the anti-Israel stance of most / many leftist certainly seems to be getting pretty rabid. And the person I called a ‘leftist’ didn’t dispute that claim.